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  • Jika
    Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 1337

    Use permitted for a zafu/zabuton

    Hi all,

    on the one hand, we have learned we can sit on anything, it need not be a zafu or anything special.

    Then, when carrying the zafu, one is encouraged to do so with special care. Not like anything.

    I'm asking because apart from sitting zazen, I like to sit on my zabiton reading or sewing.

    And yesterday, when I was lying down and my whole body hurt, I thought if I only had one more cushion, that would help me.
    So I grabbed my zafu lying next to me and put it under my head. It was so good!

    Afterwards I thought, maybe that was not right. The zafu is for practice, not just a cushion.

    But I don't feel guilty.
    Shikantaza does not depend on a zafu vs a rolled-up blanket.
    So using a zafu to relief pain is as sacred as any practice, or any cushion?

    Thoughts?

    Gassho,
    Danny
    #sattoday
    治 Ji
    花 Ka
  • Kyonin
    Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
    • Oct 2010
    • 6739

    #2
    Hi Danny,

    I sit wherever I can sit and a cushion is just a cushion. I don't have a zafu and I use rolled up blankets, which I use in the bed when it's cold! So my Barney blanket keeps me warm and serves as a zafu.

    In my view, what's sacred is your practice and your sincerity. If you need to use the zafu as an extra cushion, I don't see anything wrong.

    However, when a cushion becomes a zafu, then we treat it with as much respect as if you were in a traditional zendo.

    Bur again, that's just my point of view.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
    #SatToday
    Hondō Kyōnin
    奔道 協忍

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    • Mp

      #3
      Hello Danny,

      I also agree with Kyonin ... what is sacred is our practice and your intention towards that practice. Not all folks who sit use a zafu, maybe they use a chair - when they sit zazen on the chair it is sacred, when they sit on the chair to eat supper, that too is sacred.

      If your zafu can support your practice and your sore body, all the better. I feel it is not s0 much about the object, but our intention and action with and toward that object. =)

      Gassho
      Shingen

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      • Jishin
        Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 4819

        #4
        Hi Danny,

        If I don't take care of my body then there is no Zazen. It seems that you are taking care of your body as best as you can so you can continue to practice.

        Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

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        • Ongen
          Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 786

          #5
          It's just a bag of waste really. If it may carry your butt why not your head?
          Take care, Danny

          Gassho
          Ongen
          Sat today
          Ongen (音源) - Sound Source

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          • Byokan
            Treeleaf Unsui
            • Apr 2014
            • 4269

            #6
            Originally posted by Danny B
            ...Thoughts?...
            Thoughts.

            The boundary between practice and not-practice, between sacred and everyday, between heads and tails, is thought.

            Gassho
            Lisa
            sat today
            展道 渺寛 Tendō Byōkan
            Please take my words with a big grain of salt. I know nothing. Wisdom is only found in our whole-hearted practice together.

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            • Ongen
              Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 786

              #7
              Gassho, Lisa
              Thank you for that reminder

              Ongen
              Sat Today
              Ongen (音源) - Sound Source

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              • Washin
                Treeleaf Unsui
                • Dec 2014
                • 3749

                #8
                The boundary between practice and not-practice, between sacred and everyday, between heads and tails, is thought.
                So well put, thank you, Lisa.

                Gassho
                Sergey
                sat-today
                Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                ----
                I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                • Jika
                  Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 1337

                  #9
                  Thank you everyone.
                  As I said, I did not deel guilty, Lisas words (as always) express my feelings so much better than I could.
                  But I am happy to get some feegback, especially yours, Kyonin, that others change the use of the objects too and that intention makes anything anything.

                  Gassho,
                  Danny
                  #sattoday
                  治 Ji
                  花 Ka

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                  • Shugen
                    Treeleaf Unsui
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4535

                    #10
                    Hi Danny,

                    I'm a little late to reply but wanted to share something. I have gone on retreat a couple of times at Sanshinji, Shohaku Okumura's temple. The cost of the retreat includes being able to sleep in the zendo for no additional charge (there is also a dormitory but that costs a little more). So, during the day, the zendo is a sacred place of sitting. During the evening, the zafus and zabutons become beds and pillows.

                    Gassho,

                    Shugen

                    #sattoday


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