Celebrating Marriage for All

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  • Ekai
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 672

    #16
    My mom is in a same sex marriage and she is very happy. I have no problem with it and love her the same whether she is married to a man or woman. Whatever feels right in someone's heart is what is right for them.

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    • Jishin
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 4821

      #17
      Celebrating Marriage for All

      My dad and his partner were together for about 30 years before my biological father expired. I still have one dad left. It is a good day for the fight of equality for all.

      Gassho, Jishin

      #SatToday
      Last edited by Jishin; 06-28-2015, 11:13 PM.

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      • Kyonin
        Dharma Transmitted Priest
        • Oct 2010
        • 6748

        #18
        It's a great day for equality and human spirit because I think some other countries will follow the example.

        Lets hope this permeates to all nations and peoples in the planet.

        Gassho,

        Kyonin
        #SatToday
        Hondō Kyōnin
        奔道 協忍

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        • KellyRok
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1374

          #19
          A beautiful day indeed. May all beings be able to share their love freely with whom their heart desires.


          Kelly/Jinmei

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          • Dosho
            Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 5784

            #20
            The United States has many problems, but we do seem to have the capacity for giant leaps where such leaps were previously seen as impossible. I am proud of us for striving to offer equal protection to all. We have a long way to go and perhaps always will, but on this day I am proud.

            Gassho,
            Dosho

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            • Ernstguitar
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 97

              #21
              At the risk of repetition: dignity is a birthright.
              The only way I can see it. Thank you.

              Gassho, Ernst
              Sat today

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              • Kaishin
                Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2322

                #22
                Jundo, you've mentioned in the past that you know conservative Zen teachers in the West. I'd be curious to know if any of them oppose this legislation, and how they square that with their practice. Actually, I'd be curious to hear that in regard to many issues that conservatives oppose (social safety nets, universal healthcare, etc). Many of those stances seem--to me--incompatible with how we practice Zen in the West, or at least Soto, or at least here at Treeleaf.

                -satToday
                Thanks,
                Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 40862

                  #23
                  Hi Kaishin,

                  A survey I saw a few years ago said that only about 3% of convert Buddhists in America identify as, for example, supporting the Republican party in elections. I know a couple of priests who are so. However, I have no idea how they feel about particular social issues such as same-sex marriage.



                  I know some Zen Teachers who are also Catholic Priests (mostly Jesuit and Rinzai Zen practioners), but I do not know how they feel on certain issues.

                  Gassho, J
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • FlamingDollar
                    Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 23

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    I know some Zen Teachers who are also Catholic Priests (mostly Jesuit and Rinzai Zen practioners), but I do not know how they feel on certain issues.

                    Gassho, J
                    Were they not officially ordained? I thought Catholic priests were excommunicated if ordained with any other religious organization. Sorry if it's a bit of a dumb question.

                    Gassho,
                    Will

                    satToday

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 40862

                      #25
                      Originally posted by FlamingDollar
                      Were they not officially ordained? I thought Catholic priests were excommunicated if ordained with any other religious organization. Sorry if it's a bit of a dumb question.

                      Gassho,
                      Will

                      satToday
                      All the Jesuits I know were Teachers of Rinzai Zen in Japan and Europe, or Fr. Kennedy in the mixed Rinzai-Soto Sambokyodan. He is Transmitted as a Zen Teacher while still a Jesuit, although it is possible that it is through a non-Ordained "Lay" lineage in the Sambokyodan/White Plum (or some other creative arrangement) ...

                      "Robert Kennedy, S.J., Roshi, is a Jesuit priest and Zen teacher in the White Plum lineage. He studied with Yamada Roshi in Kamakura, Japan, with Maezumi Roshi in Los Angeles, and with Glassman Roshi in New York. Glassman Roshi installed Kennedy as sensei in 1991 and conferred Inka (his final seal of approval) in 1997, making him a roshi (master). Kennedy Roshi is the author of Zen Gifts to Christians and Zen Spirit, Christian Spirit.... To date, Kennedy Roshi has installed six dharma successors...and Kevin Hunt Sensei, a Trappist monk from St. Joseph's Abbey at Spencer, Mass.

                      For the occasion of Fr. Hunt's installation, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, S.J., wrote:

                      "Because of the long preparation and training required to become a master of the demanding Zen training, Fr. Hunt's achievement is one that we can all celebrate in thanksgiving to God ... Jesuits and other Christians have found Zen to be a valuable instrument for progressing in the spiritual life. ... By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God's immediate loving presence."


                      I do not know the details of his relationship with either Sambokyodan, Glassman Roshi or the Catholic Church.

                      Gassho, Jundo

                      SatToday
                      Last edited by Jundo; 07-02-2015, 07:08 PM.
                      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                      • Myosha
                        Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 2974

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Kaishin
                        Jundo, you've mentioned in the past that you know conservative Zen teachers in the West. I'd be curious to know if any of them oppose this legislation, and how they square that with their practice. Actually, I'd be curious to hear that in regard to many issues that conservatives oppose (social safety nets, universal healthcare, etc). Many of those stances seem--to me--incompatible with how we practice Zen in the West, or at least Soto, or at least here at Treeleaf.

                        -satToday
                        Hello,

                        Discussing politics and religion . . . what could go wrong?

                        Specifically regarding the SCOTUS decision - legislating is simply not the job of the Judicial Branch of the United States government. The unelected lawyers sitting on the bench removed the people's ( that is the Legislature's ) responsibility for creating laws.

                        Sticking with the healing art.




                        Gassho
                        Myosha sat today
                        Last edited by Myosha; 07-02-2015, 07:24 PM.
                        "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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                        • FlamingDollar
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 23

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jundo
                          All the Jesuits I know were Teachers of Rinzai Zen in Japan and Europe, or Fr. Kennedy in the mixed Rinzai-Soto Sambokyodan. He is Transmitted as a Zen Teacher while still a Jesuit, although it is possible that it is through a non-Ordained "Lay" lineage in the Sambokyodan/White Plum (or some other creative arrangement) ...



                          I do not know the details of his relationship with either Sambokyodan, Glassman Roshi or the Catholic Church.

                          Gassho, Jundo

                          SatToday

                          Thank you very much!

                          Gassho,
                          Will

                          satToday

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                          • Kaishin
                            Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 2322

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Jundo
                            Hi Kaishin,

                            A survey I saw a few years ago said that only about 3% of convert Buddhists in America identify as, for example, supporting the Republican party in elections. I know a couple of priests who are so. However, I have no idea how they feel about particular social issues such as same-sex marriage.



                            I know some Zen Teachers who are also Catholic Priests (mostly Jesuit and Rinzai Zen practioners), but I do not know how they feel on certain issues.

                            Gassho, J
                            Thank you, Jundo. Very interesting!

                            -satToday
                            Thanks,
                            Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                            Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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