Confusion upon Confusion

[Jishin]

Hi,

I like The Dude's quote from the movie The Big Lebowski:

That's your opinion man.

Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Troy]

Hi,

I like The Dude's quote from the movie The Big Lebowski:

That's your opinion man.

Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_

Ha! That is true :P


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[Byokan]

Hi All,

I was surprised by this too. It seems that maybe he never really accepted or experienced for himself the wholeness and unity of everything. It is clear that he rejects the concept of no-self. How many of us have accepted it 100%? I’m still holding on. It doesn’t take away from his scholarly rigor in writing a very fine history of Buddhism. He seems like an earnest, thoughtful chap and I’m guessing he lives a good life, so it all comes out pretty well I suppose.

For the record, I’d be very happy to come back as a cockroach. They are beautiful creatures (not in my kitchen though, thank you), magnificently adapted to life on earth. Little Buddhas, at home where they are, living in the moment, responding appropriately, probably not clinging to too many delusions.

Gassho
Lisa
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[Troy]

Confusion upon Confusion

Ha! That is true :P


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Talking about myself here

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[Kyonin]

So, what is our Sangha's view of rebirth? Is it inline (not that it has to be) with the Soto Zen tradition? Zen in general?

Hi.

I don't know but I'm eating mango now. Then I have to go help a friend who is going through depression.

Gassho,

Kyonin
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[Troy]

Hi.

I don't know but I'm eating mango now. Then I have to go help a friend who is going through depression.

Gassho,

Kyonin
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Thank you Kyonin. I like that view too


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[Noroshi]

I'm not really sure what I think of rebirth either. When it starts to weigh on my mind I think of the parable of the poisoned arrow and that I'm better off focusing on what I can do now.

Gassho

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[Catherine]

Hello, thank you for this fascinating thread. I'm new to zazen but after many years of searching, and weighed down by the baggage of a Roman Catholic background, I find that I have finally come 'home' (in a homeless way) in Soto Zen. I believe that most Abrahamic and Dharmic religions seek the destruction of self as a core practice but I so love the beautiful simplicity of zazen. Non-acceptance of our mortality as the origin of suffering is also key to many of the existential philosophies (Heidegger, Sartre etc) of the west.Charlotte Joko Beck, whose insightful but simple observations led me Zen Buddhism, wrote very simply of the self (the selves of all sentient beings), as little whirlpools which fade and flow back into the stream (of being/non being). I try to keep the marvellous sense of liberation this has brought me as a non-goal but it is indeed joyous.

Gassho,
Cathy
Sat today

[RichardH]

Hello, thank you for this fascinating thread. I'm new to zazen but after many years of searching, and weighed down by the baggage of a Roman Catholic background, I find that I have finally come 'home' (in a homeless way) in Soto Zen. I believe that most Abrahamic and Dharmic religions seek the destruction of self as a core practice but I so love the beautiful simplicity of zazen. Non-acceptance of our mortality as the origin of suffering is also key to many of the existential philosophies (Heidegger, Sartre etc) of the west.Charlotte Joko Beck, whose insightful but simple observations led me Zen Buddhism, wrote very simply of the self (the selves of all sentient beings), as little whirlpools which fade and flow back into the stream (of being/non being). I try to keep the marvellous sense of liberation this has brought me as a non-goal but it is indeed joyous.

Gassho,
Cathy
Sat today

Beck's imagery of whirlpools is wonderful. Is the whirlpool a separate entity within the water, or just the play of water? Is anything gained when the whirlpool forms, or lost when it dissolves? Water images.. oceans and waves and steams and eddies.. always seem to feel so right.

Gassho

Daizan


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