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  • Byrne
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 371

    Change of Scenery

    Due to the circumstances of my job and lifestyle (which are interconnected much more so than for most people) I rarely am able to sit in the same spot for even so much as two consecutive days in a row and with even less consistency about what time of day sittings happen. Still I have been very consistent in sitting every day at sometime for at least 20 minutes. When the opportunity presents itself I take it. Usually I face a wall, but is that really important? Is looking at a pile of clothes or a bookshelf or a busy street still proper zazen so long as the mind stays calm and accepting?

    Gassho

    Sat Today
  • Mp

    #2
    Hello Byrne,

    Whether facing the wall, a book shelf, the back of someones head while riding the train, or a pile of dirty clothes ... zazen is boundless like the air that fills our lungs. =)

    Gassho
    Shingen

    SatToday

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    • Kyonin
      Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
      • Oct 2010
      • 6745

      #3
      Hi Byrne,

      I've had this very same question in the past and found that it doesn't matter where in the planet you are.

      Just sit still and be. Zazen is so immense and boundless, that it's the same wherever you go.

      Gassho,

      Kyonin
      #SatToday
      Hondō Kyōnin
      奔道 協忍

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      • Kyotai

        #4
        Kyonin and Shingen said it well. I too sometimes cannot sit formally every single day. But sometimes the waiting room at my sons gymnastics class works just as well

        Gassho, Kyotai
        Sat today

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        • KellyRok
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1374

          #5
          Kyonin and Shingen said it well. I too sometimes cannot sit formally every single day. But sometimes the waiting room at my sons gymnastics class works just as well
          Yes! Sometimes I sit in my car between Karate and wrestling practices, to sit for even a small period of time. You can find small moments of zazen between the comings and goings, the foldings and washings, the cooking and cleaning.

          Gassho,
          Kelly/Jinmei

          willsitwhen kids get off to school

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          • Jishin
            Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 4821

            #6
            Hi Byrne,

            Sometimes I face the wall. Sometimes I don't. I does not seem to make a difference to me.

            Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40190

              #7
              One can sit any place, and time, a busy or still place, facing in or out ... beyond all direction and measure.



              Gassho, J

              SatToday
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Risho
                Member
                • May 2010
                • 3179

                #8
                What everyone else said. lol

                I think it's just that early on it's easier if you sit in a silent place facing a white wall because when staring at funky things, you can get funky visions, but in the end, if you are sitting amidst that, that's pretty damned awesome.

                Gassho,

                Risho
                -sattoday

                P.S. that may be the link jundo posted, but if you can meditate in downtown tokyo (like Jundo) or in the chaos of wherever you are ( I mean even if you are on a mountain, and you are in chaos, then you are in chaos), you can meditate anywhere. Plus it's great practice!
                Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                • Dave d
                  Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 42

                  #9
                  I have the same problem,I work away and sometimes start 2 or3am and then the next day maybe a 7'oclock,start so it's impossible to sit at a regular time.but try to sit every morning and night if I can stay awake that long.when I'm away I can only sit seiza due to restricted space but just try my best whatever the situation.think that's all you can do.

                  gassho

                  Dave
                  sat today

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                  • Byokan
                    Treeleaf Unsui
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 4288

                    #10
                    Hi Bryne,


                    Yep, what everyone else said.

                    This might sound like a smartass answer, but I really don’t mean it to be. The place you sit is always on your own bum. The time is always now. And what’s in front of you is always just some particular manifestation of the world. So as long as you’re having some measure of consistency in making the time to do it, I think all is well.

                    Gassho
                    Lisa
                    sat today
                    展道 渺寛 Tendō Byōkan
                    Please take my words with a big grain of salt. I know nothing. Wisdom is only found in our whole-hearted practice together.

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                    • Jinyo
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1957

                      #11
                      Originally posted by raindrop
                      Hi Bryne,


                      Yep, what everyone else said.

                      This might sound like a smartass answer, but I really don’t mean it to be. The place you sit is always on your own bum. The time is always now. And what’s in front of you is always just some particular manifestation of the world. So as long as you’re having some measure of consistency in making the time to do it, I think all is well.

                      Gassho
                      Lisa
                      sat today
                      I really like that Lisa - it made me smile and it's very true.



                      Willow

                      Sat today

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                      • Tai Shi
                        Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 3406

                        #12
                        I am consistent about where I sit, and sometimes the time is different. Lately I've tried to catch people on Hangout so these times are variable.
                        Elgwyn
                        sat today
                        Gassho
                        _/\_
                        Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                        • Byrne
                          Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 371

                          #13
                          Thanks everybody. Treeleaf has really helped me understand the importance of a sangha. The encouragement and focus is so very much appreciated.

                          Gassho

                          Sat Today

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                          • MikeTango
                            Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 85

                            #14
                            Thank you so much Byrne for this thread and thanks for your post in the Beginner´s series, Jundo.
                            Different from my previous humanitarian missions, here I have to spend many days in the communities which we serve, resting in a tent. In those periods I have to do my afternoon-evening zazen session inside the tent. I was told in my Soto Zen training that beginners like me, should practice always in a silent room, until they gain enough strength of concentration to keep focused even in a noisy room (capacity that I don´t know if someday I could attain ). For that reason, many times I preferred waiting until my mates sleep in their tents to start my zazen, what is harder for me because I am sleepy too. Now that I heard about this I will try this new perspective next week.
                            Gassho
                            Miguel
                            #Sat Today

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