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  • Anshu Bryson
    Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 566

    #16
    Originally posted by Jundo
    Another example of how Metta may have a real and measurable effect across vast distances ... at least from a Buddhist Perspective. Please follow this reasoning (at least, Zen "non-Reasoning" ), Bryson.

    Yesterday, I saw a tragic story in the news which touched my heart. A mother and her two sons were killed when a plane crashed into their house near Washington D.C., leaving a widowed father and one surviving young son. I was heartbroken. There was also nothing I could do to help these people, of course. I do not even know them, and they are on the other side of the world from here in Japan. So, it seems that all I can do is offer "Metta" and such, wishing the survivors to be free of suffering. How ineffectual in purely physical terms!

    But then I read this note that the father posted on facebook:



    Now, here is the funny thing. First, just knowing that people, even unseen strangers, are offering things like prayers and well wishes seems to offer some small drop of comfort to this family.

    Next, my offering Metta may soften my heart such that if, sometime in the future, I see someone in my own community whom I can physically help ... a cold homeless man, another parent and child in need ... maybe I will be able to physically help them in a more "solid" way. There is my chance to actually do something! Wishing well to and feeling compassion for the people across the world, I prepare my heart to take action here where I can.

    But next (and here is where the Mahayana "logic-non-logic" comes in ... in a "self and others are not two" way ) ... in a very real sense, the family in Washington, the homeless man and families here in my own community are not two. Helping here, I help there. She is not me nor you, nor is here the same as there (of course!) yet She -is- We -is- I -is- You ... Helping Them, I help All. When I help the homeless man or people in my town, I help the fathers and sons everywhere. I am a "first responder".

    Further, in a very real sense, the hands of the "firefighters, police and other first responders" are the hands of the praying and well-wishing "friends, neighbors and the community", your hands and mine. We are that poor family, and they are us and our closest loved ones, not two. I speak not only about us as some shared "community" or as "citizens of the same society" (although there is most certainly that aspect too), but in a most intimate sense from a Buddhist Perspective. They flow into you and you into them.

    It is a bit hard to understand, but I wrote this once about Kannon of 1000 Arms ... Kannon is often depicted with 1000 arms and eyes, seeing and reaching out toward suffering wherever it manifests. Truly, those hands and eyes are OUR hands and eyes each time we act with Compassion.



    A little more here ...



    Gassho, J
    Thank you Jundo. I will ponder this deeply...

    Gassho,

    Bryson

    sat today

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40992

      #17
      Originally posted by Bryson Keenan
      Thank you Jundo. I will ponder this deeply...

      Gassho,

      Bryson

      sat today
      Sit as this deeply ... as "they" flow into "you" flow into "all", and "here" where one sits or chants Metta is just "here there and everywhere". This is a very Mahayana Buddhist vision of interflowing and intrapenetrating universal co-arising ... that you me and the other guy are all in this together in the same little row boat paddling along at sea and, in fact, you me boat and sea are just one.

      It may help to understand the traditional Buddhist Image of "Indra's Net" ...

      A frequently cited expression of this vision of reality is the simile of Indra’s Net from the Avatamsaka Sutra, which was further elaborated by the Huayan teachers. The whole universe is seen as a multidimensional net. At every point where the strands of the net meet, jewels are set. Each jewel reflects the light reflected in the jewels around it, and each of those jewels in turn reflects the light from all the jewels around them, and so on, forever. In this way, each jewel, or each particular entity or event, including each person, ultimately reflects and expresses the radiance of the entire universe. All of totality can be seen in each of its parts.

      Another time, Fazang illustrated the Huayan teachings for Empress Wu by constructing a hall of mirrors, placing mirrors on the ceiling, floor, four walls, and four corners of a room. In the center he placed a Buddha image with a lamp next to it. Standing in this room, the empress could see that the reflection in any one mirror clearly reflected the reflections from all of the other mirrors, including the specific reflection of the Buddha image in each one. This fully demonstrated the unobstructed interpenetration of the particular and the totality, with each one contained in all, and with all contained in each one. Moreover, it showed the nonobstructed interpenetration of each particular mirror with each of the others.

      ...


      One moral of Indra's net is that the compassionate and the constructive interventions a person makes or does can produce a ripple effect of beneficial action that will reverberate throughout the universe or until it plays out. By the same token you cannot damage one strand of the web without damaging the others or setting off a cascade effect of destruction.

      More ...
      http://www.ancientdragon.org/dharma/...ornament_sutra
      Gassho, J
      Last edited by Jundo; 12-11-2014, 05:14 AM.
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      • Byokan
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Apr 2014
        • 4284

        #18


        Gassho
        Lisa
        sat today
        展道 渺寛 Tendō Byōkan
        Please take my words with a big grain of salt. I know nothing. Wisdom is only found in our whole-hearted practice together.

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 40992

          #19
          I am going to apologize 20% for the film I recommended above, and linked to, called "I AM".

          While 80% of the film is a very lovely reflection on compassion, human interconnectedness, what is wrong with the world and how to make it right ...

          ... 20% of the film contains unsubstantiated pseudo-scientific snake oil, new agey claims and wild suppositions that detract from the rest of the movie. It is the worst example I have seen of this since a religious cult released another mess of a movie a few years ago called "What the Bleep do We Know" ...

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrKvzPXULME&feature=related[/video]] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrKvzPXU ... re=related (http://[video=youtube_share;SrKvzPXULME) :) Gassho


          In "I Am", we are shown unverified experiments demonstrating how yogurt responds to human emotions, claims are made for the impact of world emotions on random number generators, and "quantum mechanics" is bandied about in support of several wild propositions ... all of which are open to challenge. One does not need to rely on pseudo-science, fraudulent experiments and crack-pot scientific theories to support most of the viewpoints we are discussing in this thread.

          Ένα πείραμα με αποτελέσματα που μας κάνουν να αναρωτηθούμε. Μήπως υπάρχει ένα πεδίο που μας ενώνει όλους ;


          No surprise, but nobody seems to be able to replicate this "yogurt" experiment outside some shady institutes like the one featured in the film.



          Apparently the director of "I Am", a well meaning fellow, was not too discerning in his use of materials. However, the other voices heard in the film, such as Desmond Tutu and Coleman Barks, still make it a worthwhile ride. My fault for recommending a movie halfway through.

          Gassho, Jundo
          Last edited by Jundo; 12-11-2014, 04:44 PM.
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          • Byokan
            Senior Priest-in-Training
            • Apr 2014
            • 4284

            #20
            Hm. So it wasn't just my imagination. I thought my cottage cheese looked a little morose today.

            Gassho
            Lisa
            sat today
            展道 渺寛 Tendō Byōkan
            Please take my words with a big grain of salt. I know nothing. Wisdom is only found in our whole-hearted practice together.

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            • Troy
              Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 1318

              #21
              Originally posted by Jundo
              I am going to apologize 20% for the film I recommended above, and linked to, called "I AM".

              While 80% of the film is a very lovely reflection on compassion, human interconnectedness, what is wrong with the world and how to make it right ...

              ... 20% of the film contains unsubstantiated pseudo-scientific snake oil, new agey claims and wild suppositions that detract from the rest of the movie. It is the worst example I have seen of this since a religious cult released another mess of a movie a few years ago called "What the Bleep do We Know" ...

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrKvzPXULME&feature=related[/video]] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrKvzPXU ... re=related (http://[video=youtube_share;SrKvzPXULME) :) Gassho


              In "I Am", we are shown unverified experiments demonstrating how yogurt responds to human emotions, claims are made for the impact of world emotions on random number generators, and "quantum mechanics" is bandied about in support of several wild propositions ... all of which are open to challenge. One does not need to rely on pseudo-science, fraudulent experiments and crack-pot scientific theories to support most of the viewpoints we are discussing in this thread.

              Ένα πείραμα με αποτελέσματα που μας κάνουν να αναρωτηθούμε. Μήπως υπάρχει ένα πεδίο που μας ενώνει όλους ;


              No surprise, but nobody seems to be able to replicate this "yogurt" experiment outside some shady institutes like the one featured in the film.



              Apparently the director of "I Am", a well meaning fellow, was not too discerning in his use of materials. However, the other voices heard in the film, such as Desmond Tutu and Coleman Barks, still make it a worthwhile ride. My fault for recommending a movie halfway through.

              Gassho, Jundo
              I was feeling the same way after watching the video, but I did like what that one "scientist" said (the one with the big square glasses). I am now quoting him to my friends.

              "Anger makes you stupid"




              _|sat2day|_

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              • Ishin
                Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 1359

                #22
                Hello all

                Just to play Devil's advocate, I am more metaphysical in my beliefs and personal experience. I DO believe prayer works. I see ourselves as much more energetically connected than our flesh and blood bodies would have us think. I do not conceptualize this in the sense of some supernatural personality intervening on our behalf, but in the sense that there is a cosmic force that we can all tap into. However, it doesn't bother me if other's disagree, nor do I see how it changes my practice.

                I see no harm in sending other's loving kindness, so why not?

                Gassho
                C
                Sat Today!
                Grateful for your practice

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                • FabianS
                  Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 26

                  #23
                  In my "early days" I looked upon prayers and such with a smile, kinda labeled it as voodoo and didn't want to get involved. Over time this attitude changed from experience. I believe that good thoughts and wishes can influence someone else. Zazen and Zen in general taught me and showed me (through memories that popped up during sitting e.g.) that thinking of people (be it friends, relatives or even those who I lost contact with) gives a positive feeling and leaves a trail. I do it more or less regular now, mostly after sitting and enjoy the moment, peaceful as it is.

                  A little related: Funny thing is that my partner came to me today (both of us still a little sick) and he asked me, if I really think that thinking positive while being sick helps in fighting the desease. A few month back this question would have seemed impossible. I guess my training doesn't go unnoticed after all. He's running around with a positive attitude now and feels better and enjoys the small things he still can do while being sick, instead of being grumpy about it.

                  Gassho, Fabian
                  #SATTODAY
                  It's not about me. It's not about you. It's about us.

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                  • Troy
                    Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1318

                    #24
                    Originally posted by FabianS
                    In my "early days" I looked upon prayers and such with a smile, kinda labeled it as voodoo and didn't want to get involved. Over time this attitude changed from experience. I believe that good thoughts and wishes can influence someone else. Zazen and Zen in general taught me and showed me (through memories that popped up during sitting e.g.) that thinking of people (be it friends, relatives or even those who I lost contact with) gives a positive feeling and leaves a trail. I do it more or less regular now, mostly after sitting and enjoy the moment, peaceful as it is.

                    A little related: Funny thing is that my partner came to me today (both of us still a little sick) and he asked me, if I really think that thinking positive while being sick helps in fighting the desease. A few month back this question would have seemed impossible. I guess my training doesn't go unnoticed after all. He's running around with a positive attitude now and feels better and enjoys the small things he still can do while being sick, instead of being grumpy about it.

                    Gassho, Fabian
                    #SATTODAY
                    When my wife gave birth to Taylor her heart failed. We were told she had a 50/50 chance of living and we could have no more children. The heart doctor told us that a positive attitude makes all the difference in the world. He said he has seen many patients get overwhelmed by their diagnosis and give up hope. He believed that loss of hope reduced their chance of survival. My wife worked hard at her recovery and never gave up. She made a full recovery and we had our second child in March after eight years of thinking we would have no more children. So, yes, I am a believer in hope. : )


                    _|sat2day|_

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 40992

                      #25
                      Someone wrote to ask me how I can make such wild statements above such as "here" is "there" and "She -is- We -is- I -is- You" ...

                      ... all while I am critical of pseudo-scientific claims such as that yogurt feels our anger etc., and claim to be a skeptic about many "superstitious" aspects of Buddhism and new age beliefs.

                      It is really very simple.

                      I believe that changes in definition and perspective such as "She -is- We -is- I -is- You", finding all the individual things of the world as separate yet one ("not two" as we say in Zen lingo) is merely a matter of change in perspective, angle and interpretation that one encounters through this Practice and is uncovered during Zazen. There is nothing unscientific about it, and merely a difference in how we look at things.

                      As a simple example, if I were to compare this life and world to a sailboat sailing on a sea (please pretend for a moment that our whole life and world is like that), I might define and categorize mentally "sails" "ropes" "hull" "sailor" "other crewmates" "wind" "sun" "water" "fish" etc. as all separate things. I might see "smooth seas" as good from the sailor's perspective, and "stormy seas" as bad. But, likewise, I might change perspective and come to see "sails and ropes and hull and sailor and crewmates and wind and sun and water and fish and clear days and stormy days" all as one great thing, one great voyage called "Sailing"! One cannot separate the sailor from the sailboat (one cannot really have a sailor without something to sail) nor the wind from the sun, the fish from the sea. Even the sea would be dead and lifeless without fish and sailors, boats and sailors unable to move without water and wind etc. We might come to see the trip not merely as the measure of distance or far place we may have come from, or the distant place we may be going ... but always right here and right here, where we sail right now with compass and wheel in hand. Without clear days and storms, what adventure to sailing? In this way, by a change of perspective, we might see how all things flow and support each other, and become a great Whole! (In fact, the experience of Kensho is actually a great encounter with such a viewless view of this intrapenetration of all the separate "stuff" of this self-life-world).

                      Got the point? There is really nothing "unscientific" about it, or which conflicts with anything science has come to tell us about this world (in fact, science seems more and more to be affirming this deep interconnection and intrapenetration of all phenomena). It is merely a way a of encountering reality in which we move or remove many of the hard borders and divisive categories we impose among the separate things of life. Especially, we soften or fully remove the hard border between our sense of "separate me self" and "all the 'not me' rest of the world".

                      That is very different from making an unverifiable scientific or religious claim that yogurt feels our love, UFO's kidnap farmers in Kentucky, that "psychic" Yuri Geller actually bends spoons with his mind alone, or that Buddha never needed to eat food or drink water. Maybe so, but I remain a doubtful skeptic on such claims.

                      Gassho, Jundo

                      SatToday

                      PS - Dogen wrote a wonderful Shobogenzo section on the Wholeness of Sailing ... from Master Dogen's Shobogenzo-Zenki (The Whole Works) ...

                      Life can be likened to a time when a person is sailing in a boat.
                      On this boat, I am operating the sail, I have taken the rudder, I am pushing
                      the pole; at the same time, the boat is carrying me, and there is no “I” beyond
                      the boat. Through my sailing of the boat, this boat is being caused to be a
                      boat—let us consider, and learn in practice, just this moment of the present.
                      At this very moment, there is nothing other than the world of the boat: the
                      sky, the water, the shore have all become the moment of the boat, which is
                      utterly different from moments not on the boat. So life is what I am making
                      it, and I am what life is making me. While I am sailing in the boat, my body
                      and mind and circumstances and self are all essential parts of the boat; and
                      the whole earth and the whole of space are all essential parts of the boat.
                      What has been described like this is that life is the self, and the self is life.

                      http://www.bdk.or.jp/pdf/bdk/digital...enzo2_2008.pdf
                      Last edited by Jundo; 12-12-2014, 07:20 AM.
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                      • Anshu Bryson
                        Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 566

                        #26
                        "I am he, as you are he, as you are me
                        And we are all together..." John Lennon



                        Gassho,

                        Bryson

                        sat today

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                        • Jundo
                          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 40992

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bryson Keenan
                          "I am he, as you are he, as you are me
                          And we are all together..." John Lennon



                          Gassho,

                          Bryson

                          sat today
                          Yes, and this one too.

                          Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                          Gassho, J

                          SatToday
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                          • Nindo

                            #28
                            Did not Dogen say that the present influences the past? (Sorry I don't have a quote; just remember this from a Norman Fischer podcast.) That's even more wild than sending metta around the globe in the present ...

                            Gassho,
                            Nindo
                            sattoday

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40992

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nindo
                              Did not Dogen say that the present influences the past? (Sorry I don't have a quote; just remember this from a Norman Fischer podcast.) That's even more wild than sending metta around the globe in the present ...

                              Gassho,
                              Nindo
                              sattoday
                              Yes. This is an aspect of Dogen's view of Being-Time and the Intraflowing Wholeness ... Just as the top of a river or waterfall needs the bottom, and the bottom of the river or waterfall needs the top ... and all aspects of the river we step into are always here yet ever flowing ... one may say that past flows into future, future into past, and all flows ever here and here ...

                              More on Dogen's many views (and non-views) of time ... all of which are also mostly "matters of perspective" and mental redefinition, so not unscientific in any way ...

                              Timelessness is not a transcendent dimension of “I” that remains untouched by the movement of world. All that is “I" belongs to the movement of the world, and the unmoving nature, the diamond hard space that remains unstained by conditions, is realized when no part of “I” is held back from movement, but instead moves


                              Gassho, J

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                              • Joyo

                                #30
                                I do not believe in intercessory prayer either, or any supernatural-type stuff. I know many others do, and that is perfectly fine. Chanting metta has helped me overcome severe anxiety, it has also helped me see my "enemies" in a different way.

                                I took Shingen's advice today. There was a dead deer on the road when I was driving to work. I whispered a brief "I wish you peace" verse to the deer and to whomever hit it. I don't think anything supernatural happened from my words, but it keeps the heart soft, and helps to stay connected with all beings.

                                Gassho,
                                Joyo
                                sat today

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