Question on chanting, maybe to the Inos, and others

[Dosho]

Nindo,

It would seem Jundo agrees with you and I do too...up to a point. I'll just say that I would be concerned with such a video that folks will spend more time on ritual than they do just listening and sitting. To me, that is what they should be focusing on...everything else will come with time.

I am sure, however, that Jundo will find a middle way.

Now if I could just get Jundo to make a video of what he does, particularly what we can't see. I've been asking for years.

Gassho,
Dosho

I am not advocating for military style sameness. I was just speaking on behalf of newcomers, who may appreciate a few pointers. True, it is a learning opportunity to pick things up as you go, but it's hard to do from a screen where you see only part of the action, often from a weird angle, and everybody else attending is downsized to a tiny icon. There are so many things to learn in Zen practice at the beginning .... yes it is a middle way to offer guidance and at the same time allow some stumbling.

At my recent retreat with the Calgary Soto group, a lengthy intro session was held about posture, bowing, kinhin etc. and then when we practiced, it was still all over the place. Every now and then somebody remembered though!

[Nindo]

[Geika]

Now if I could just get Jundo to make a video of what he does, particularly what we can't see. I've been asking for years.

Yes!

[pinoybuddhist]

I do remember some very old treeleaf videos (back in the ancient days of the old website) where jundo showed how to do prostrations, chant the heart sutra and sandokai, how to hold the booklets, etc. I even have them saved in my laptop.

In fact the way he chanted at the end of the heart sutra (gate gate paragate...) where the monotone changes into a minor key melody is how I usually chant. I was surprised the last few zazenkais I joined when the chanter would chant the entire sutra in monotone. But then, I HAVE been away for quite a while.

Gassho,
Raf

[Hotetsu]

Hey Raf,
I would love to see those vids if you could repost them.

Gassho,
Scott

[Jundo]

Hi All,

You wishes are our command! I have asked Yugen to work with me in making a video expressing basic Zendo behaviour and decorum. It may take us some weeks to get it made, but we will. As most folks have suggested, we will strike a Middle Way between "do what ya feel" and rigid formality!

There is also a series of older videos leading up to our upcoming 2-day netcast Rohatsu Retreat. I believe those are what Raf means. Those will be posted soon in preparation for the Retreat.

Gassho, Jundo

[Biko]

This is the one I do.

[pinoybuddhist]

Hi All,

You wishes are our command! I have asked Yugen to work with me in making a video expressing basic Zendo behaviour and decorum. It may take us some weeks to get it made, but we will. As most folks have suggested, we will strike a Middle Way between "do what ya feel" and rigid formality!

There is also a series of older videos leading up to our upcoming 2-day netcast Rohatsu Retreat. I believe those are what Raf means. Those will be posted soon in preparation for the Retreat.

Gassho, Jundo

Yes, those are the videos I was talking about.

Gassho,
Rafael

[Hotetsu]

Awesome! I can't wait :-).

Gassho