Timing your Zazen

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  • johnny
    Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 39

    Timing your Zazen

    Aside from using the meditation timer on this site or others, I'm curious what method everyone here uses to time themselves.

    Thanks,

    John
  • lindabeekeeper
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 162

    #2
    Hi John,

    I've used everything from kitchen timers to the time it takes incense to burn down. I don't recommend looking at a clock or your watch. It's way too distracting.

    I don't think it matters much. It is the sitting that is important.

    Good luck

    Gassho,

    Linda

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    • Eika
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 806

      #3
      Hi, John. Welcome to treeleaf. I've used incense in the past, but now I mostly use a cheap timer I bought on Amazon that can be made to sound, vibrate, or flash a light. If I can find the link, I'll post it.
      [size=150:m8cet5u6]??[/size:m8cet5u6] We are involved in a life that passes understanding and our highest business is our daily life---John Cage

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      • Kelly M.
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 225

        #4
        Just a dollar store kitchen timer for me.

        I also recently found this:

        Its a simple meditation timer programe.
        Live in joy and love, even among those who hate
        Live in joy and health, even among the afflicted
        Live in joy and peace, even among the troubled
        Look within and be still; free from fear and grasping
        Know the sweet joy of living in the way.

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        • will
          Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 2331

          #5
          Modified Treeleaf gong that I posted here( recommended)

          Before that a watch alarm. They have some neat gong alarm clocks kicking around. Don't know if you seen those.

          G,W
          [size=85:z6oilzbt]
          To save all sentient beings, though beings are numberless.
          To penetrate reality, though reality is boundless.
          To transform all delusion, though delusions are immeasurable.
          To attain the enlightened way, a way non-attainable.
          [/size:z6oilzbt]

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          • johnny
            Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 39

            #6
            Thanks for all the input!

            Will....yes I've seen those....I might spring for one down the road...

            Don'tknow....I'm going to search Amazon right now...thanks!

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            • louis
              Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 172

              #7
              my cell phone on vibrate mode, left on my desk.

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              • Skye
                Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 234

                #8
                Good suggestion, Louis. I find most timer alarms rather jarring!
                Even on one blade of grass / the cool breeze / lingers - Issa

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                • Stephanie

                  #9
                  1. $100 "Digital Zen Alarm Clock" (until I broke it :lol
                  2. Incense stick (when I'm where I can burn incense)
                  3. Treeleaf timer / virtual zendo (love the graphics too)
                  4. Glancing at cell phone / watch nearby (I've sat zazen long enough that I have a visceral enough feel for the passage of time that I don't have to look so often it becomes distracting)

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                  • Charles
                    Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 95

                    #10
                    About half the time I use Jundo's videos, which run for about the length of time I want to sit for.

                    The rest of the time I use my cell phone's alarm clock function, which thankfully works even when the ringer is turned off.

                    Louis, I didn't even think to check if the alarm can be set to vibrate instead of ringing. Thanks for the idea. The alarm is indeed jarring.

                    --Charles

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                    • Bansho
                      Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 532

                      #11
                      Hi,

                      I just use an inexpensive digital stopwatch with a countdown timer.

                      Gassho
                      Ken
                      ??

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                      • Mensch
                        Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 77

                        #12
                        Perfectionist that I am, I edited MP3 tracks using Apple's wonderful Garage Band software and free high fidelity singing bowl chimes. I use separate intro-, silence- and ending tracks which can be stacked to any desired length of sitting without increasing memory consumption. Playback at home is done via a tiny battery-powered speaker console that sits on a shelf right behind my head.

                        I have to say: The sound experience almost beats the real thing and though Uchiyama would probably dismiss it as another zazen "toy", it seems to enhance concentration considerably. (Send me a message if you want to try it.)

                        When outdoors I simply use my watch.

                        Gasho.
                        Mensch

                        (PS: Proper avatar in the works.)

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                        • Mensch
                          Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 77

                          #13
                          :shock: Oops! Software hickup?

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                          • Janice
                            Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 93

                            #14
                            I use an enso clock by salubrion http://www.toolsforwellness.com/21470.html

                            or http://www.salubrion.com/products/en...o-features.php.

                            I thought the interval timer feature might come in handy for use with exercise. But I have used that feature on occasion to lengthen my zazen-- set the short chime to go off after the first interval at the normal length of my sitting and then set the second interval to go off 5 or 10 minutes later.

                            You can choose various non-jarring sounds for the alarm like wooden blocks, tingsha, or singing bowls.

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40327

                              #15
                              Hey Guys,

                              Just so everyone knows, if you decide to use the Treeleaf Timers {designed by the great John Simon) they are downloadable for Mp3 players and such ... great for a bit of Zazen when out in the world ...

                              http://www.treeleaf.org/meditation.html

                              And, like the universe, it is FREE!

                              Also, Will, please post the link for your extended version (2x 30 minutes with Kinhin in between). I don't think the link posted.

                              Gassho, Jundo
                              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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