"Is Zen About Doing Things Slowly One At A Time?" - From Wohl Sensei and SweepingZen

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40679

    "Is Zen About Doing Things Slowly One At A Time?" - From Wohl Sensei and SweepingZen

    SweepingZen today has a lovely video by Seishin Wohl Sensei to a student's question ...

    I understand that we should do things slowly, deliberately, and completely, one thing at a time. But in my work environment, where I tend to get quite stressed and overwhelmed, not only by my work itself but by the energies and the dealings with my coworkers, how am I supposed to do these things? I’m a server at a large chain restaurant that can get pretty busy at times, and although I am usually able to “keep my cool” and try to focus on doing one thing at a time and keeping a short order to tasks to accomplish in the most efficient order that will not only keep my flow but the flow of the kitchen and therefore everyone else going smoothly. But, like I said, this can get extremely overwhelming and difficult, and there are days when I sometimes just want to give up. Like I said, in not only my time at work, but in other aspects of my life, I have somewhat been able to develop this sort of constant “walking meditation” so to speak. But I feel I could really use some advice for improving these techniques in the workplace. It takes a heavy toll on my mind and my spirit. Thank you for any help you could provide.
    Please watch the short video response from Wohl Sensei here ...



    I typically say much the same on this topic ...

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    It seems to me that many people in Zen Practice have come to confuse "being present/mindful in the moment" (for example, "when drinking tea, just drink tea" ... a sometimes appropriate and lovely way to experience life) ... with "being at one with the moment" (allowing and merging with conditions of life "just as they is"). The two are not quite the same, and are often confused, and the latter is much more at the heart of this Shikantaza Path ...

    Yes, I believe that there are times to be "mindful" ... and there are times not. Sometimes when I eat, I just eat ... when I sip tea, I just sip tea ... when bowing, just bowing ... fully absorbed in that action. A wonderful, insightful practice. When doing one thing, just do one thing with all one's body-and-mind.

    At other times, I just grab a sandwich and a coke while reading the newspaper and thinking about the job I have to do. That's life too. Nothing wrong with it.

    (I do not know where the idea started among some folks that the 'goal' of this practice is to live the first way every moment of every day. That would be pretty awful (if not harmful) to live like that all or even most of the time. What's wrong with also sometimes reading the paper, thinking about work, while grabbing a quick sandwich? There is a place for all of that.)

    Further, people get even more confused about "mindful" in Buddhism because the word is used in a couple of distinct ways.

    Another, rather different meaning of "mindful" often found in Buddhism is to develop awareness of the "mind theatre" running constantly in our heads (developing the ability to identify the thoughts and emotions that play through our heads, and how they create our experience of "reality" ... e.g., "now I am temporarily sad" "now I am reacting with anger") That is a wonderful, insightful practice too ... very very important ... but I caution against thinking that you must or can do that 24/7.

    In my view, the heart of this Practice is merely "being at one" with this self-life-world just as it is ... dropping the resistance, barriers, separation between our "self" and all the circumstances in which that "self" imagines it finds itself in ... until even the walls between "self" and "life-world" (or self and itself) soften or even fully drop away ...

    So, for example, when drinking tea, just do that and fully allow that. When grabbing a sandwich while reading the paper and thinking about your annoying co-worker in the office, just do that and fully allow that (and fully allow the craziness in the newspaper and your annoying co-worker too). When your kid plops in your lap during tea drinking and the cup spills all over the table, just do and allow that. When temporarily falling into sadness or anger, just do and allow that (although remember that "mind theatre" and see if you truly need to be that way, and seek to be not that way if you can). When overwrought with life for a moment, just do that and fully allow that (remembering in the back of your mind that the clear, boundless blue sky is behind the clouds of thought and emotion even when momentarily covered over). When suffering with old age and sickness of ourself or someone we love, even death, just do that and fully allow that.

    In my view, all of the above together is truly balanced, "mindful" living. That is "being the moment".

    Gassho, Jundo
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Joryu
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 106

    #2
    ... but I caution against thinking that you must or can do that 24/7.
    , nandi

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    • Mp

      #3
      Thank you Jundo ... =)

      Gassho
      Shingen

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      • pinoybuddhist
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 462

        #4
        Thank you for this reminder. I'll try to watch the video later.
        Gassho,
        Raf

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        • Steven
          Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 114

          #5

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          • Daiyo
            Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 819

            #6
            Thanks Jundo.

            I might be overthinking, or perhaps the english language, which is not my mother language is tricking me.
            How would you define or describe "being at one"?

            Gassho,
            Walter.
            Gassho,Walter

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            • Joyo

              #7
              Thank you Jundo, this is truly a peaceful way to live.

              Gassho,
              Joyo

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              • Risho
                Member
                • May 2010
                • 3178

                #8
                Thank you.

                Gassho,

                Risho
                Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 40679

                  #9
                  Originally posted by walter
                  Thanks Jundo.

                  I might be overthinking, or perhaps the english language, which is not my mother language is tricking me.
                  How would you define or describe "being at one"?

                  Gassho,
                  Walter.
                  If pressed to say in a nutshell ...

                  Allowing and fully embracing how things are in that moment, without resistance or wish things were otherwise.

                  We might do so (in our crazy-wise Zen Way of living two ways as one) even while we resist some of those very same things and wish them otherwise, all at the same time!

                  The gap, division and friction in ourself (and created by our little self) between X (how things are) and Y (how we wish they were) is a prime source of Dukkha (suffering in Buddhist meaning).

                  Gassho, J

                  PS -
                  Originally posted by pinoybuddhist
                  Thank you for this reminder. I'll try to watch the video later.
                  Gassho,
                  Raf
                  Yeah, when you have some time to pay attention!
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • Sekishi
                    Dharma Transmitted Priest
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 5673

                    #10
                    Such an important reminder. Thank you Jundo and Wohl Sensei!
                    Gassho,
                    Sekishi
                    Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Thank you so much for this teaching Jundo. So wonderful.


                      Deep bows to you and Wohl Sensei.


                      Gassho
                      Bobby

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                      • Jika
                        Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 1337

                        #12
                        I happened to find the written explanation in the old Antaiji arcives on "Adult Practice". There, Muho writes he is asking people at Antaiji to do work "efficiantly". Maybe this is a German thing too, but he explains along the same lines. For me, it seems very appropriate for many work environments. I am not distanced from tasks I do not like that much, while to my boss I do not look lazy as I would when doing everything really slowly. Gassho, Danny
                        治 Ji
                        花 Ka

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                        • Myoku
                          Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1491

                          #13
                          Thank you Jundo, Seishin Wohl and everyone contributing,
                          I think - besides all whats being said makes much sense to me - that the "doing things slow and mindfully" is somehow to be seen as a time where we can more easily be aware of our thoughts, mind theater and maybe our resistance. I mean, just as zazen can be done on the cushion in a quite room and on the market place, while its easier to start in a silent room, thats not the only place for zazen. In the same way, I feel, being aware of ourselves, leaning about ourselves is easier in a calm, peaceful, slow situation. Hope this makes any sense
                          Gassho
                          Myoku

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                          • Kaishin
                            Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 2322

                            #14
                            Always a good reminder. Thanks, Jundo!

                            I'll trot out my favorite anecdote on this topic again as well (about Korean zen teacher Seung Sahn):

                            Seung Sahn would say, "When you eat, just eat. When you read the newspaper, just read the newspaper. Don't do anything other than what you are doing."

                            One day a student saw him reading the newspaper while he was eating. The student asked if this did not contradict his teaching. Seung Sahn said, "When you eat and read the newspaper, just eat and read the newspaper."

                            –From Essential Zen, edited by Kazuaki Tanahashi and Tensho David Schneider (HarperSanFrancisco)
                            Thanks,
                            Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                            Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                            • jeff_u
                              Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 130

                              #15
                              Thank you for sharing this.

                              Gassho,
                              -Jeff

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