Dzogchen and Shikantaza

[Mp]

Your sectarian ignorance stinks to heaven.

thigle,

Yet Martin Luther King was both a humanitarian and leader ... the practice you seem to preach lacks both my friend.

Gassho
Shingen

[Byokan]

Task: Simply sit. Implement this task before you read further.

Hi Thigle,


As I expect it may take me many lifetimes to fully implement this task, I probably will not get to reading the remainder of your post for a while, but appreciate that it will be waiting for me at that time.


Wishing you peace.


Gassho
Lisa

[Jundo]

Hi Thigle,

The problem for us is that it is hard to understand what you are writing about. I know you understand, but it is impenetrable to me. So, if it seems to be working for you, I wish you well to do so. Unfortunately, i cannot comment because I do not understand.

If you would like to Practice as we do here, then you are most welcome here. If you do not Practice as we do here in this Dojo, then I think you are in the wrong Dojo for you.

Gassho, Jundo

[Myosha]

Hello,

Metta to all.*


Gassho,
Myosha

*All is just as it is

[Hans]

Hello Thigle,

believe it or not, I get what you are trying to communicate. The point for me personally is that there is no Dharma practise devoid of compassionate Sangha practise. I just don't feel any warmth anywhere in your posts or any indication you want to really get to know any of us. We all have good days and bad days, but I just don't understand what you want us to do...

So if your method of expressing Dzogchen/Shikantaza means you can fully awaken in record time, go for it. I really mean this from the bottom of myheart. This world needs all the Bodhisattva power it can get.

The thing is that there are even multiple ways of teaching Shikantaza, so even if we all told you "nicely epressed", what would we do afterwards?

I wish you well.

Gassho,

Hans Chudo Mongen

[Joyo]

I'm more of a Martin Luther, werter Hans. Your sectarian ignorance stinks to heaven.

What is the purpose of saying this? I can answer that for you, there is no purpose. It's unnecessary to say the least.

Gassho,
Joyo

[Joyo]

John, much metta to you and your wife. I wish you well, and do hope everything went fine with the surgery.

Gassho,
Joyo

[Guest]

I am a very simple headed fellow. I just sit, and such is all the world.
Gassho, Jundo

Deep bows Jundo.

I spent many years in my practice thirsty and diving face first down a well that had no water in it. Reading a lot in this thread reminds me of that time.

There is nothing wrong with the opinions, teachings and practices that have been spoken here, but it wasn't the flavor for me. What I quoted from Jundo above sums it up for me. And as many have said, we have a certain practice here and this is a living breathing Sangha.

When I first found Buddhism as a teenager I studied anything and everything I could get my thirsty little hands on. For so many years I mixed and matched and practiced everything I could trying to find "my" practice that was right for "me." One of the many things I studied was Dzogchen.

I must say it took me many years after all that study and practice of all those different things to burn it all away and to move "the furniture out of the attic" so to speak. And I had found that this dropping away of all these things I had studied and dropping away of everything was coming from "just sitting." I started to simplify practice (perhaps to a bit of an extreme) in all ways. Then I searched for a teacher, community and Buddhist practice to further deepen my practice for the benefit of all sentient beings.

So here I am at Treeleaf practicing our flavor. I practice and I practice simply. I tend to practice very simply and even when explaining our practice to others I explain it very simply. Mostly because I find we can become easily attached to some of the "furniture in the attic" and it is best to just sit.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with any of the practices or teachings in this thread, I am simply explaining some experiences on a winding path that has become a bit more simple, straight, narrow...and drops away.

Am I saying the initial "thirst" is wrong? No, I am saying it is time to sit.

My deepest respect to all of you.

Gassho
Bobby

[Amelia]

Nice post, Bobby. Gassho

[dharmasponge]

Hi, still hovering in here.

I had to giggle...for those who were struggling with what this chap is trying to articulate.....now you know how it feels!!!

When I have asked about the 'Mechanics of Shikantaza' the responses, tho well meant and received, were just as ambiguous and unclear to me as this chaps posts are to you.

Best wishes,

Tony

[Jundo]

Hi, still hovering in here.

I had to giggle...for those who were struggling with what this chap is trying to articulate.....now you know how it feels!!!

When I have asked about the 'Mechanics of Shikantaza' the responses, tho well meant and received, were just as ambiguous and unclear to me as this chaps posts are to you.

Best wishes,

Tony

Ah, Shikantaza is simplicity itself: Just sit, letting thought be, in equanimity free of all judgments, with no other place to be and no other act necessary to do in the whole world in that moment besides sitting itself. Child's play.

Gassho, J

STLah

[vanbui]

Ah, Shikantaza is simplicity itself: Just sit, letting thought be, in equanimity free of all judgments, with no other place to be and no other act necessary to do in the whole world in that moment besides sitting itself. Child's play.

Gassho, J

STLah

Deep bows
Gassho

Van Bui
Sat _/\_

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