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  • Seiryu
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 620

    When the bell sounds.

    Ummon said, "The world is vast and wide; why do you put on your seven-piece robe at the sound of the bell?"

    I love this Koan, because I feel it is pointing at a fundamental and beautiful point. Why do we practice?

    Just why is it do we sit? Why do we face the wall? What drives us? What motivates us? What brought us here in the first place? What was the trigger? Was there a trigger? Does there need to be one? Why do we vow to save all beings? What does that actually mean? Are we sincere when we vow this? Or are we just flapping our lips? Is it actually possible to do? Why did we take the precepts? Who was the one who actually took them? Who are you? Who am I? Who sits? Who breaths? Who vows? Who asks? Who cares? Is an answer necessary? Is there one at all?

    Just sitting. Facing a wall. Just this. Cool breeze coming through the window. sounds of sirens sneaking in. Dog barking. Smell of incense. Just this. Just on a cushion. Facing a blank wall. Questions and answers dissolve. Whats left? Sitting on a cushion. Facing a blank wall. Not just me sitting. Life sitting. Every being sitting.
    Sitting with the horrors of the world, tears arises. Sitting with the beauty of the world. Smiles appear. Sitting with you. You sitting with me. Me sitting with me. You sitting with you. All answers and all question merge.

    Bell sounds. Bows. Rises. Each step. Each breath. Each action. Complete and perfect. Yet, within it, so much room for improvement. Even more room for more sitting. Never ending action.


    Gassho


    P.S
    This is just my ramblings. Please disregard it.
    Last edited by Seiryu; 10-27-2013, 06:46 PM.
    Humbly,
    清竜 Seiryu
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 39959

    #2
    Yeah.

    Who? Who! Why? Why!
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Kokuu
      Treeleaf Priest
      • Nov 2012
      • 6836

      #3
      That is a beautiful koan, Seiryu. Thank you. I know we don't do formal koan practice here but sometimes they really hit the spot.

      "The world is vast and wide; why do you put on your seven-piece robe at the sound of the bell?"


      Why, out of all the activities we could be doing, and all the places we could be, do we choose to sit facing the wall?

      Where else could we be but here and what is lacking in this moment, at this spot, with all beings sitting with us?

      Whether sitting facing the wall, walking the dog, planting flowers or sweeping the path, we wear the seven piece robe whether we wear it or not. Or it wears us.
      Which part of life is not zazen?

      Gassho
      Andy

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      • shikantazen
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 361

        #4
        Originally posted by Seiryu
        Ummon said, "The world is vast and wide; why do you put on your seven-piece robe at the sound of the bell?"

        I love this Koan, because I feel it is pointing at a fundamental and beautiful point. Why do we practice?

        Just why is it do we sit? Why do we face the wall? What drives us? What motivates us? What brought us here in the first place? What was the trigger? Was there a trigger? Does there need to be one? Why do we vow to save all beings? What does that actually mean? Are we sincere when we vow this? Or are we just flapping our lips? Is it actually possible to do? Why did we take the precepts? Who was the one who actually took them? Who are you? Who am I? Who sits? Who breaths? Who vows? Who asks? Who cares? Is an answer necessary? Is there one at all?

        Just sitting. Facing a wall. Just this. Cool breeze coming through the window. sounds of sirens sneaking in. Dog barking. Smell of incense. Just this. Just on a cushion. Facing a blank wall. Questions and answers dissolve. Whats left? Sitting on a cushion. Facing a blank wall. Not just me sitting. Life sitting. Every being sitting.
        Sitting with the horrors of the world, tears arises. Sitting with the beauty of the world. Smiles appear. Sitting with you. You sitting with me. Me sitting with me. You sitting with you. All answers and all question merge.

        Bell sounds. Bows. Rises. Each step. Each breath. Each action. Complete and perfect. Yet, within it, so much room for improvement. Even more room for more sitting. Never ending action.


        Gassho


        P.S
        This is just my ramblings. Please disregard it.
        Beautiful Post. Really beautiful.

        Sam

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        • Koshin
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 938

          #5
          Beautiful...thank you.

          Gassho

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          Thank you for your practice

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          • Mp

            #6
            Beautiful Seiryu ... thank you for your ramblings.

            Gassho
            Shingen

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            • Seimyo
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 861

              #7
              Thank you Seiryu. Please ramble on.

              Gassho
              Seimyo

              明 Seimyō (Christhatischris)

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              • Joyo

                #8
                Not just rambling, beautiful words, thanks for sharing.

                Gassho,
                Treena

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 39959

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Karasu
                  That is a beautiful koan, Seiryu. Thank you. I know we don't do formal koan practice here but sometimes they really hit the spot.
                  [I]
                  Hi,

                  Just a point of small correction here. We do engage in Koan Practice here, formal and informal and all other ways. I believe that people sometimes confuse the fact that Soto folks usually sit Shikantaza and do not engage in Zazen focused on a Koan or Koan phrase with the belief that Soto folks do not honor, learn from, pierce and embody Koans. Such is not so. Just open about any page of Dogen's Shobogenzo, for example, and he is riffing on some old Koan.

                  Here, for example, we are dancing with the classic Koan Collection known as the "Book of Serenity" ...

                  Welcome to our book club, where we travel through helpful books on Zen without getting lost in words.


                  (time for me to drop a Koan there, by the way) ...

                  ... and Taigu recently invited some folks to a bit of "Koan 'rassling" in the Cave of Tigers ..
                  The late and great teacher Daido Loori of the White Plum lineage had a few of his dharma combats and mondo recorded and published in an amazing book. Some 20 years ago I opened this book and could not tell where the tail or the head were, this pile of Zen conversations were impenetrable. I ordered it yesterday on my kindle and


                  Plus, of course, every instant of every moment is countless Koans presenting themselves as our very lives ... the Genjo Koan.

                  Gassho, J
                  Last edited by Jundo; 10-28-2013, 03:25 AM.
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • Taikyo
                    Friend of Treeleaf
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 363

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Hi,


                    Plus, of course, every instant of every moment is countless Koans presenting themselves as our very lives ... the Genjo Koan.

                    Gassho, J
                    Thank you Jundo

                    Deep bows
                    David

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                    • Kokuu
                      Treeleaf Priest
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 6836

                      #11
                      Just a point of small correction here. We do engage in Koan Practice here, formal and informal and all other ways
                      Thank you for the correction, Jundo.

                      It is true that Shobogenzo is full of Dogen's take on koans and our study of The Book of Serenity/Equanimity is greatly appreciated.


                      Gassho
                      Andy

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                      • Myosha
                        Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 2974

                        #12
                        Thank you.


                        Gassho,
                        Edward
                        "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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                        • Onken
                          Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 104

                          #13
                          Funny you write this. I have been a bad Buddhist lately in that I have been laxed in my sitting and practice. But, that smell of Sandalwood last week smacked me right in the head and I fell directly onto my Zafu at just sat. It was much needed.
                          Gassho,
                          Onken

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                          • Kyonin
                            Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 6745

                            #14
                            We sit.

                            We live.

                            As one.

                            Thank you for this.

                            Gassho,

                            Kyonin
                            Hondō Kyōnin
                            奔道 協忍

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                            • Tiwala
                              Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 201

                              #15
                              Hi,

                              I find all these descriptions to be so far from what I experience. Theoretically, I may have some idea. But ultimately, theory is worth nothing if it can't be put to use.

                              Anyway, when I sit.... sometimes it's really boring and I don't feel anything. Actually most days happen like this. I find it immensely boring. I can't wait to just jump off the cushion and go back to my usual routine. There's no oneness, there's no ecstatic transcendental feeling, no nothing. Just boring old sitting. Occasionally, sure, but mostly no. It's just the same old life I've led, nothing special. There must be something here if I keep pushing.... without actually pushing (?) how does that work? I dunno. This is my koan right now.

                              Gassho,
                              Ben
                              Gassho
                              Ben

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