Zazen With Glasses!?

[Genki]

Hi!
I have glasses, no problems with that.
I didn't sit zazen with glasses because it didn't feel right.
I started to think about my glasses recently. And I recognized that it didn't felt right because it wasn't the real ME with glasses.
The real ME have naturally bad eyes and the zazen for me should be done for real, I think?
But, then I think, if I sit with glasses, it's is also the real ME. And I want to see clear, always. I would probably sit zazen for real even with or without glasses.
My conclusion is that I drop my glasses for real, or I will not drop them at all.

Gassho
Björn


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[Rich]

With or without glasses is not a problem. I usually don't wear them sitting because my eyes relax more without them.

[Jakudo]

I have begun to sit without my glasses, I find my eyes begin to hurt after a short time while sitting.

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[Emmet]

I read an essay in "The Art of Just Sitting" by John Daido Loori, in which the author said to sit with glasses if you wear glasses; don't sit with glasses if you don't wear glasses.

I wear glasses...I tried sitting with glasses...didn't like it...now I don't.

[Rich]

Some glasses are more problematic than others because the bottom of the lense is prescribed for reading and the middle/top is prescribed for near sightedness as in my case.

[Heishu]

I have my glasses on when sitting. I do not wear them while sitting to see anything; after all I am not looking at anything that the glasses will help me to see. I just never gave much thought about them being on as they usually are on when I go sit. Like Rich mentioned the lenses with bifocals or trifocals could be annoying. That was the issue I had when I first began to sit as I have bifocals.

Gassho,
Heishu

[Shonin]

I sit with mine. I always wear them so to me I didn't see any reason not to wear them. I don't think my glasses interferre with anything . So I see not reason not to sit with them.

Dave _/\_

[Jundo]

Hi,

Sometimes I sit with them on, sometimes I sit with them off. As everyone has said here, the vital part is to not give them any thought ("don't give 'em no nevermind" in the Americanism slang). That's how to really See Clearly!

I have seen teachers sit with them on or take them off. Like Homeless Kodo Sawaki here ...





Gassho, J

[Myoshin]

For me the problem is when I drop my eyes I can see two times, like two worlds; a part within my glasses, a part below the glasses (so without my glasses). The limit of my glasses is where my vision is where I drop my eyes at 45 degrees. So without.

Gassho

Myoshin

[Jundo]

For me the problem is when I drop my eyes I can see two times, like two worlds; a part within my glasses, a part below the glasses (so without my glasses). The limit of my glasses is where my vision is where I drop my eyes at 45 degrees. So without.

Gassho

Myoshin

Where do those two worlds exist? Where is the bothered by? (A Koan) Two Worlds? One World made Two? Not Two Worlds? What is seen clearly? Who is bothered and torn between two worlds?

[Jundo]

A nice quote from Trungpa ...

Look. This is your world! You can't not look. There is no other world. This is your world; it is your feast. You inherited this; you inherited these eyeballs; you inherited this world of color. Look at the greatness of the whole thing. Look! Don't hesitate-look! Open your eyes. Don't blink, and look, look-look further.
CHOGYAM TRUNGPA

[Shonin]

Thanks for your input, Jundo.

[Kantai]

I also have the glasses on sometimes and sometimes off.
One time I accidently stepped on them when getting up after zazen because I had them on the floor and was forgetful of the fact that they were not on my nose.
So now I put them on a high place, most often on the nose.
Gassho
Edward

[Oheso]

I usually sit with my glasses on, and have lived and sat long enough that I now wonder about taking out or turning off the hearing aids.

I've found it really doesn't make much difference either way, with my boosters and enhancers or without.

thank you for allowing me to participate.

Robert

[Myoshin]

Good koan Jundo, it will take a time to sit with that

Gassho

Myoshin