Beautiful short film on Western Zen Monk, Hyun Gak Sunim

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40772

    #16
    Well ...

    Generally I am not a fan of anything that over romanticizes, prettyfies or idealizes temples, practice, Asian scenes or Buddhist figures living or dead. If you take anything or anybody, give it the Hollywood treatment, you can photoshop an image into something smooth, polished and fakey-glorious. On the other hand, it has been going on since the early days of Buddhism when they started to paint pictures of the Buddha and Buddhalands that looked like this ...



    Of course, one could say that the film or idealized picture captures some essence. Perhaps, but in many cases it just turns people or places into a postcard or cardboard cutout. It becomes hard to tell where the real person or place begins, and the music video/PR job begins. Are we looking at the real person, or an airbrushed version? What is wrong with life with all its warts, sweat and plumbers butts?

    No, I rather disagree with this statement ...

    The filmmaker captured the essence of the practice so well with each frame, "This moment....This moment...This moment.."

    Perhaps, in the sense that Zen Practice leaves nothing out ... real or fake ... so even a polished and improved PR job is real. Even press agents and tv commercial directors (selling Zen folks like they were selling salad dressing or a chevrolet) have Buddha Nature. On the other hand, I do not think it captures the essence of anything because it is kinda fake.

    I am somewhat reminded of those airbrushed postcards of Japan's Mt. Fuji that look like this ...



    ... when many scenes around Mt. Fuji look more like this ...



    Zen Practice is not about polishing up life's ugly. It is more about seeing right through the beautiful and ugly to something truly Beautiful.

    By the way, don't let my comments about the film take away from Hyon Gak Sunim, who I feel is a very gifted teacher and sincere practitioner. He is someone very very special. Here is a very clear interview he gave to Public Television awhile back.

    Hans, maybe we have to get that fancy camera, professional lighting and a make-up department, and improve our production values around here? :-)

    Gassho, J

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    Last edited by Jundo; 09-09-2013, 03:38 PM.
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    • sittingzen
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 188

      #17
      Jundo, I find your perspective refreshing. Thank you for sharing. The artist attempted to translate Hyun's teaching of being present, of finding the joy (and the ugly) in each moment. I found her cinematography, straight forward shots of nature and of Hyun's every day life far removed from anything remotely sensationalizing him or the practice. Her form of poetry, is all. And what beautiful poetry it is.

      _/\_
      Shinjin datsuraku, datsuraku shinjin..Body-mind drop off, mind-body drop off..

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40772

        #18
        Yes, the line between poetry and paid for PR can be a fine one. Maybe this is "paid for PR poetry"?
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        • sittingzen
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 188

          #19
          Touche, Jundo!

          I bow down graciously! _/\_
          Shinjin datsuraku, datsuraku shinjin..Body-mind drop off, mind-body drop off..

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40772

            #20
            As in the case of Adyashanti we discussed a few weeks ago, don't fall too easily into being impressed by a polished or well packaged image.

            In this case, though, while the video may be too polished ... the teacher, Hyon Gak Sunim, has the substance to back it up. Inside the shiny package and the TV commercial, there is actually something nutritious to eat.

            Gassho, J
            Last edited by Jundo; 09-09-2013, 05:06 PM.
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            • Ishin
              Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 1359

              #21
              Originally posted by Jundo
              Yes, the line between poetry and paid for PR can be a fine one. Maybe this is "paid for PR poetry"?
              I was thinking something similar. The artistry of this short film is great and compelling, what kind of ruined it for me was the email plug for talks at the end. Of course to be fair I don't know anything about this individual, his talks and how he supports himself. It was still interesting.
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              • Nindo

                #22
                Originally posted by Jundo
                ... the teacher, Hyon Gak Sunim, has the substance to back it up. Inside the shiny package and the TV commercial, there is actually something nutritious to eat.

                Gassho, J
                Jundo, since you seem to have met him, could we get him to do a guest talk for Treeleaf?
                (He seems to be familiar with new media, judging by how often the smartphone and tablet were in view...)

                I'd be curious why he is based in Germany. Are the States saturated with Zen teachers already? All the better for the German students, of course. Train travel from sangha to sangha is definitely easier in Germany. I enjoyed the town scenes, especially Regensburg.

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 40772

                  #23
                  I do not know him beyond those brief times, but can ask a good friend, Nindo, who is a teacher in Kwan Um to put us in touch.

                  Gassho, J
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                  • YuimaSLC
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 93

                    #24
                    I watched the film a few days ago (thank you Lu) and then let it sit with me. I thought it a value to watch, both for what it said/implied and didn't say. Beautiful cinematography.

                    Coming back today to comment, I read the comments Jundo and others have offered the past few days; which spoke similarly to what I was going to offer. Obviously, the film is edited, and therefore it becomes a little too polished in terms of trying to capture this perfect, even flow, of moment-by-moment. (And moment-by-moment is, in it's own unobstructed nature, perfect...empty...pure.) However, a perfect, active, well-ordered, in-control-of-events day shouldn't mislead the viewer to thinking nothing goes awry, or goes counter to his "plan". Plans are conceptual things, like navigating with meridians of longitude and latitude.

                    A bicycle tire that gets punctured and goes flat...thus requiring attention with the same serene reflection we see in the film, would have been helpful. And, missing the train as a result of the flat tire. (what does the priest do then?) Or, encountering someone on the train who decides all your contemplation and focus needs some interruption.

                    As Taigu put it, talking about his takahatsu-ing on a street corner; one is met by all myriad forms of phenomenon, including jeers from passers-by, or kind words, or a splash of mud from a passing motorist. All those, too, to be met with equanimity.

                    I don't mean to imply that this priest doesn't have the depth to embrace all conditions of life. My impression is that he does. But, I wish that the filmmaker had the wisdom to recognize and include conditions that don't immediately look serene, that might appear disruptive.

                    Gassho

                    Richard

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 40772

                      #25
                      I just watched again. It's PR, an info-mercial. A well polished, well made MTV video. Religious propaganda.

                      If this director presented mud being splashed from a passing car, it might look like a hip version of Moses' parting the Red Sea in C.B. Demille's old movie.



                      It is an up-to-date, 21st Century hagiography ... idealized image of a Holy Man.

                      Beautiful lighting. Entertaining I suppose. They should have gotten Keanu Reeves to play the monk. The film version of life usually is better than life.



                      Gassho, J (who knows the reality of life is so much better than that!)
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                      • Seiryu
                        Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 620

                        #26
                        I agree with you Jundo. I re-watched it and after the awe for the quality of the film making went away (Really well made) it is just as you say over dramatized. Reminds me of a story I heard about a man who went to see a Karate demo in Japan. The demo was flashy and fun and after the show the man went up to the master and told him "Ive been doing martial arts myself for many years and I never quite saw some of those techniques." "Thats because I made half of them up" replied the master. "Why would you do that?" "I am not going to show a room full of strangers things that they can use to actually hurt people, and sadly the flashy stuff is what attracts most people. But the ones that stay and stick around...."

                        you get the point.
                        Humbly,
                        清竜 Seiryu

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                        • MyoHo
                          Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 632

                          #27
                          A movie like this could be made about anyone. The practice makes it more interesting but most of us sit once or twice a day, so I do think I could make at least a photo report 1:1 like this of anyone.

                          Just a jest: isn't riding the train also dear Taigu's way? I'll bet some of us with time and talent, could make an even more dramatic series about our teachers because there is even Takuhatsu! Capture dear Jundo preparing for Zazenkai, concentrated, absorbed in starting up his computer connections,doing the Kesa and/or Rakusu ritual, beautiful beard, talking on skype or tired from reading millions of posts until late at night, tending to family,sitting on the floor eating an apple,watching soap series for contrast,etc.

                          Your life, my life all so great, majestic and beautiful in its uniqueness. Intimate and personal in black and white. All very interesting when watched through the eye of a camera in slow motion. Why? Because this is when we suddenly do pay attention to detail and beauty, like we should at any moment in our own story, right here right now.

                          Maybe that's the lesson here. Don't have to be a great master to lead a life worth watching carefully. Let's look at our own lives in the very same way we look at this vid. Marvel and cherish at the great gift we have been given.

                          Gassho

                          E.
                          Mu

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                          • Nindo

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Enkyo
                            Your life, my life all so great, majestic and beautiful in its uniqueness. Intimate and personal in black and white. All very interesting when watched through the eye of a camera in slow motion. Why? Because this is when we suddenly do pay attention to detail and beauty, like we should at any moment in our own story, right here right now.

                            Maybe that's the lesson here. Don't have to be a great master to lead a life worth watching carefully. Let's look at our own lives in the very same way we look at this vid. Marvel and cherish at the great gift we have been given.
                            Well said!
                            Gassho,
                            Nindo

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                            • Heion
                              Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 232

                              #29
                              Lu,
                              I love it! Thanks for sharing. Very interesting and knowledgable.

                              Enkyo,

                              Your words are lovely and a great reminder for me. I sometimes get into such a moment, but pass it off as being a fluke or weird. I guess I should view my life as a third person, sometimes.

                              Gassho,
                              Alex
                              Look upon the world as a bubble,
                              regard it as a mirage;
                              who thus perceives the world,
                              him Mara, the king of death, does not see.


                              —Dhammapada



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                              • Ishin
                                Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 1359

                                #30
                                Hello

                                I am thinking we should make a short film of Jundo, running around doing Zazen, wearing bathing suits and Halloween costumes, in his bathtub, picking out props for his videos.

                                Just a thought.

                                Silly as you sometimes are, you keep it real Jundo. Thanks.

                                Gassho C
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