Ash and firewood, Genjokoan pointers 2

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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    #16
    Genjokoan is often seen as the most important chapter of Shobogenzo. If you like it I would warmly recommend Okumura s book Realizing Genjokoan and the following website:



    Gassho,

    Taigu

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    • YuimaSLC
      Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 93

      #17
      As we sit here reading this on the computer, and we engage in the comments by Dogen in Zenki, you can equally substitute the description of boat/sailing for our own experience...
      at a table/working the keyboard of a computer/in a room with windows and floor and ceiling/thousands of dust specks float effortlessly in air illuminated by sunlight. I am part of it, it is all of me.

      gassho Risho and Taigu.

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      • Ishin
        Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 1359

        #18
        My head hurts but I think after reading all this over, and over, I have come to some idea as to what Dogen is driving at. Fully realizing it, or actualizing that realization, well that is a different thing altogether. It was very interesting to see the different translations, and I found that actually helpful. Your explanation of the necklace of pearls is also helpful.

        Gassho C
        Grateful for your practice

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        • Amelia
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 4980

          #19
          Taigu
          求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
          I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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          • Daitetsu
            Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 1154

            #20
            Thanks a lot, Taigu!

            To die, while living,
            is to be in the eternal present.

            (Tao Te Ching, Translation by Timothy Freke)

            Gassho,

            Timo
            no thing needs to be added

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            • alan.r
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 546

              #21
              Originally posted by Taigu
              Genjokoan is often seen as the most important chapter of Shobogenzo. If you like it I would warmly recommend Okumura s book Realizing Genjokoan and the following website:



              Gassho,

              Taigu
              Yes, I've read it and value it tremendously, but it wasn't until reading what you wrote above that Dogen's words about firewood and ash came alive for me.

              Feeling lucky and grateful to be able to work with and learn from you and Jundo.

              Gassho
              Shōmon

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              • Matt
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 497

                #22
                Thank you for this teaching. Gassho, Matt J

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                • kidbuda
                  Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 233

                  #23
                  Thanks Taigu. Nice clarification. Will sit with that for a whill. I also see it and "live it" this way: All life and all the universe is the "process and the product", "the artist and the canvas" at the same time, and is no way to separate them, yet they are both present.

                  Gassho.
                  Dancing between stillness and motion I find peace.

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                  • Dokan
                    Friend of Treeleaf
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1222

                    #24
                    As blissfully confused as I've ever been.

                    Gassho

                    Dokan

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                    We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
                    ~Anaïs Nin

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