No eternity

[Taigu]

What happens to Eternity at the apocalyptic end oftime when all accounts ae settled?

Interesting sentence , Oheso. The only real words in this sentence, and by real, I mean arising in your reality, are the two first words: what happens. Great words actually. Very useful to come back when one is drifting away. The other words are concepts and ideas which are coming from the body of myths generated by the belief system of God as a creator, a maker and a destructor of his own creation. The big and mighty father who spits the world and reabsorbs it digesting it and spliting it into the good ( nutrient taken) and the bad ( feces).Eschatology, the science of ultimate ends is also scatology, the study of feçes, the art of Heaven and hell. This mighty figure who reingurgitates his creation, who swallows up forms and space has very little to do with what I can see as God.

Anyway Eternity, in this rather primitive view means that God is beyond time, and in him, and only him, time is negated. Eternity is the communion of God and creature, the way God is experiencing himself through his creature, and the creature in total rapture through the divine intoxication escapes immanence and boundaries.

In our way, no separation between "God" and what is. Originally, we are not sinners but already saved. Neither creation nor destruction but a constantly broken fluctuatiing fabric, everything changes.

The teaching of all Buddhas is to be free while staying in the mess. To clearly see and practice that Samsara and Nirvana are not two.

We sit with flesh and shit.

Gassho

Taigu

[Taigu]

Teaching Eternity rather than a skillful means is a clever mind control device. Even popular Buddhism could not resist it offering to the naive believers terrifying pictures of hells and promises of Buddha land with endless fields of lotus flowers. Hope and fear. Eternity is the key that open the box of hope and fear. Drop eternity, and you cannot control people anymore through the use of punishment and goodies. Drop hope and fear, eternity will be seen for what it is, a seductive fiction.

Gassho

T.

[pinoybuddhist]

Rafael

[threethirty]

I remember as a child how I used to dread these christian stories of Hell for ever, everlasting burning and torture. You ll find these in the great works of J. Bosch and Breughel. Or...it could also have een eternal bliss in the lap of God and surrounded by hysterical saints and devoted angels. An eternity of f...... boredom.

I remember horrifying my mother with this idea as a kid.

_/|\_

[Oheso]

gassho, Sensei

[Myoshin]

In the endless time, between each point of time manifested, we have a gap (between 2 pop up); and this time is the moment of buddha nature, the moment of awakened awakening, in sum the realisation itself. So we can feel safe and return at home every moment. I think something like that.
I'm not trying to play with words but to match English words with my ideas
Thank you alan.r

Gassho Taigu

Myoshin

[Risho]

Thank you Taigu.

Gassho,

Risho

[Jiken]

Thanks Taigu,

Gassho,

Daido