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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    No eternity

    I remember as a child how I used to dread these christian stories of Hell for ever, everlasting burning and torture. You ll find these in the great works of J. Bosch and Breughel. Or...it could also have een eternal bliss in the lap of God and surrounded by hysterical saints and devoted angels. An eternity of f...... boredom.
    Neither nor.
    As always, Dogen and this practice will challenge your belief system and get you in a space-time- being which has nothing to do with the whip or the bag of sweets, and certainly not with: it ain t going to stop Baby, this is always going to be...

    Rather than eternity: the timeless, that is to say, the complete realization beyond time and in the now, beyond space and right in the here, free of being attached to this and that, life and death collapsing in each other. And nothing freezes, and nothing lasts, it all moves. Still yet dynamic, actively peaceful. The timeless. Not the continuation of time ad eternam but the great circle in which things arise and vanish. Not an escape, a way out, but a way in, further and deeper where the broad stroke is done.

    Please, come in.

    Every moment the timeless manifests countless ripples and forms, each of those miroring freely and perflectly the timeless itself.

    Agony and boredeom out of the window.

    Ease and joy.

    You are the flesh and bones and marrow and breath of it all: timeless itself.

    Gassho

    Taigu
    Last edited by Taigu; 08-13-2013, 09:13 AM.
  • Daitetsu
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 1154

    #2


    Gassho,

    Timo
    no thing needs to be added

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    • Heisoku
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 1338

      #3
      Timeless beauty, thank you Taigu. Gassho.
      Heisoku 平 息
      Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home. (Basho)

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      • Nengyo
        Member
        • May 2012
        • 668

        #4
        If I'm already enlightened why the hell is this so hard?

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        • Mp

          #5
          Wonderfully times less.

          Gassho
          Shingen

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          • Myosha
            Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2974

            #6
            Thank you.


            Gassho,
            Edward
            "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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            • Shujin
              Novice Priest-in-Training
              • Feb 2010
              • 1135

              #7
              Thank you, Taigu.

              Driving around town I come across numerous church billboards with messages such as "Timeless hope for hopeless times" or, paraphrased, "In a changing world, God's doesn't." While I don't have an axe to grind with Christianity, I wonder what the merit of a static world would be. I also wonder what makes the present particularly hopeless for someone in this country.

              Gassho,
              Shujin
              Kyōdō Shujin 教道 守仁

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              • Dosho
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 5784

                #8
                Thank you Taigu.

                Gassho,
                Dosho

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                • Heion
                  Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 232

                  #9
                  Beautiful perceptions and insight.

                  Thank you!

                  Kind regards,
                  Alex
                  Look upon the world as a bubble,
                  regard it as a mirage;
                  who thus perceives the world,
                  him Mara, the king of death, does not see.


                  —Dhammapada



                  Sat Today

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                  • Ishin
                    Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 1359

                    #10
                    Thankyou Taigu
                    Brought up in a Christian tradition myself, I could never understand the concept of hell from a supposedly all wise loving deity. If I see my own children learning lessons, why would I perpetually punish them. The whole concept is rife with ethical and logical issues, not to mention the lack of belief in hell in Jesus's own culture.
                    Grateful for your practice

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                    • Myozan Kodo
                      Friend of Treeleaf
                      • May 2010
                      • 1901

                      #11
                      Gassho, with thanks.
                      Myozan

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                      • Myoshin

                        #12
                        IT remembers me Uji I read not so long ago
                        It's a difficult reading but the little I understood made me feel free of fear at this moment
                        It's a good post Taigu, the way you expone with simplicity shows your understanding with brain and marrow of practice.
                        May we be able to understand the profund meaning you give to us
                        Gassho

                        Myoshin

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                        • Myoshin

                          #13
                          Maybe if I understand, it is an invitation to live fully, there's nothing more to do in this time, always fresh and always old as itself

                          Gassho

                          Myoshin

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                          • alan.r
                            Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 546

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Myoshin
                            Maybe if I understand, it is an invitation to live fully, there's nothing more to do in this time, always fresh and always old as itself

                            Gassho

                            Myoshin
                            I think so Myoshin. It's something even beyond words though, beyond the expressible - go to that, come in, Taigu is saying. And already, I've said too much - Taigu said it: the great circle.

                            Gassho
                            Shōmon

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                            • Oheso
                              Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 294

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Taigu

                              Rather than eternity: the timeless
                              maybe teaching eternity to those who might not grasp timelessness is a kind of skillful means, getting some individuals at least heading in the right direction or part-way out of the burning house. I think for me, Eternity eventually became a kind of "eternal moment" understanding. still working on getting rid of the eternal and the understanding parts.

                              what happens to Eternity at the apocalyptic end-of-time, when all accounts are settled?

                              van-eyck1-600x429.jpg world without end, this ain't gonna stop Baby

                              thank you, Taigu
                              and neither are they otherwise.

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