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  • Risho
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 3178

    #16
    Originally posted by Jundo
    I am still very curious about 100,000 things, about how this universe is put together and where (if anywhere) it came from. Life is filled with open questions and unending mysteries.

    However, this Way totally resolved for me all existential confusion, alienation and fear, and I am totally at home. The "meaning of life" is crystal clear.

    I may not know what this universe is made of, but I know exactly what it is made of (much like a mariner who may not know every corner of the sea, or all mysteries of the deep ... yet knows thoroughly the salt and wind and water he sails, and which sails him). I may not know where this world came from, but I know exactly where it is coming From. Also non-coming from each timeless instant.

    I guess statements like the above only make sense to other Zen folks.

    Gassho, J
    Thank you Daizan!!! This is an excellent and inspiring post.

    Jundo: I think that is right on (well I'm just a newbie anyway, but it feels right on ). When starting this practice you have to have a certain degree of faith because, for instance, it was just not in my experience that Form is Emptiness and Emptiness is Form; Brad talks about that in his new book, but I fully concur. I still don't fully "get it". But I think the more one practices, the more faith is replaced with experience. It's pretty interesting how the practice even continues. Why would we all continue practice when we were completely unsure about what it all meant? Why the hell didn't I give up? I'm thankful I didn't but there is certainly a mystery, a sort of "magic" that brings us to the cushion. I think it's similar to the magic that allows us to push forward with questions that we don't know will get answered.. the truly important questions that no one can answer but ourselves.

    I think it's that drive to practice and question that really binds us as a Sangha.

    Gassho,

    Risho
    Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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    • Rich
      Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2614

      #17
      Risho, your sincere comments are appreciated.
      form is emptiness
      emptiness is form
      no form
      no emptiness
      form is form
      emptiness is emptiness.

      this can be understood from a scientific view. Even something with form is just from our perspective tightly packed molecules. But no matter how tightly packed there are spaces between them or emptiness. And what we think of as emptiness has molecules or something in it. So there is really no form and no emptiness. But in order to function we recognize relatively the form and the emptiness. Something like that.
      _/_
      Rich
      MUHYO
      無 (MU, Emptiness) and 氷 (HYO, Ice) ... Emptiness Ice ...

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      • Neika
        Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 230

        #18
        Thank you Daizan, very well said.

        Gassho.
        Neika / Ian Adams

        寧 Nei - Peaceful/Courteous
        火 Ka - Fire

        Look for Buddha outside your own mind, and Buddha becomes the devil. --Dogen

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        • lordbd
          Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 68

          #19
          Originally posted by Daizan
          I'd just like to share a development. When I first learned to sit\practice there came a point where existential confusion, alienation, and fear, (the kind of fear associated with "what is the meaning of life?" questions) subsided in "just sitting". Like Jundo has said here (can't remember where exactly) ...seeking creates a sense of incompleteness. Seeking kicks the ball down the road. When seeking is dropped, the big existential questions are resolved. My bones are my bones, the sun is the sun. Yet this ending of a certain primordial fear/confusion did not remove all situational anxiety. This situation or that situation can still bring up anxious feelings. The difference is that the feelings do not go all the way to the bottom like they used to. A storm may rage on the surface, and it is fully felt, but on the ocean floor it is still. It is this "not reaching all the way down" that is emerging in a natural way lately, and the thing is, it is doing so all by itself. Maybe this is just getting older? Maybe it is sitting uselessly every day? I'm not sure, but it seems a lifetime away from fearful, confusing, world I knew as a child.

          Gassho Daizan
          This is great to read. As a beginner I have not reached the place that you describe yet. In fact, since switching from secular meditation to what I hope to be a deeper and more meaningful practice, I've been filled with anxiety each time I go to the cushion. I find your post quite inspiring.
          I took an art class once in high school. I just could NOT draw that damn bicycle. Teacher told me, "Stop looking at the page. Look at the damn bicycle."

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          • Nengyo
            Member
            • May 2012
            • 668

            #20
            You guys sure are weird. Hasn't anyone told you? There isn't anything to old Dogen's practice
            If I'm already enlightened why the hell is this so hard?

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            • Ed
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 223

              #21
              I vote for the sitting.
              As I age I feel more fearful and weaker, which is normal, more at the mercy of the elements in samsara.
              Zazen, daily or close to it, creates the depth where storms can't get to, or if they do have no force, and also we can see them coming.
              So aging seems to make us more suceptible to suffering. It's the paractice: the zazen, the verse of the okesa, the refuge, the Bodhisattva vows, the readings, this: the sangha, that helps us see the storm coming; it hits but loses the teeth, there is room to sit and watch.
              You keep posting my mind, Daizan.
              Seido.
              "Know that the practice of zazen is the complete path of buddha-dharma and nothing can be compared to it....it is not the practice of one or two buddhas but all the buddha ancestors practice this way."
              Dogen zenji in Bendowa





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