An appreciation that will be no surprised to some and little to others! And an invite

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  • Taikyo
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • Nov 2012
    • 363

    An appreciation that will be no surprised to some and little to others! And an invite

    I've been around the 'Zen scene' for some time now and I've met wonderful people, incredible people and some not so wonderful people. So when I first came to know about Treeleaf and after accessing the site a few times as a guest and thought of applying to join Treeleaf, I asked some of these people what they thought of it. I also read blogs and other stuff to take a sounding. I got a mixture of responses and opinions but in the main the feeling was "we'll it's OK but it's not the real thing". Whatever they thought the 'real' thing to be, the consensus of opinion seemed to be as a substitute, if one wasn't able to attend a 'real' zendo and sitting live with a sangha, it was fine but it was not an alternative to this.

    Now in some senses these people were right. We here do not have a bricks and mortar zendo and we do not meet in this kind of place and sit 'live' in the way they meant. But I. all other things they were completely WRONG.

    For one thing we have each other and the support of all. The discussions, questions and answers, thoughts and deeds, care and support that happens here, far outweighs all I have encountered in my experience. But the main thing, and this is really what I have said so far is all about our teachers Taigu and Jundo. They are 'the business', 'the goods' as they say, 'the real thing'. Looking at they efforts here everyday one can not doubt their dedication and commitment but not only this, one only has to look at their contributions here today Taigu's "This and that" and Jundo's last response to shikantazen (Sam) to experience genuine insight and wisdom. Who,if any, then, could doubt their authority and authenticity in the zen tradition.

    So I want to express, without any trace of fawning or synchophancy, my deepest gratitude and I want to invite any or all, whether you have done so before on one or many occasions, to join me.
    deep deep bows

  • Myozan Kodo
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • May 2010
    • 1901

    The fundamental point is expressed.


    • Juki
      • Dec 2012
      • 771

      David, I find this true as well. Only I might be even more expansive and say that, as to your second point, Treeleaf may be more authentic than "live" sang has. I sit now and then with a large Chinese Chan group in my city. But, that is the ONLY time I see members of that sangha. There really is no interaction other than on Monday nights. Treeleaf is authentic practice.

      "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden


      • Kokuu
        Treeleaf Priest
        • Nov 2012
        • 6791

        Well said, David. I too have the utmost gratitude for both teachers and sangha here.



        • Yugen

          I am grateful for your presence - each and every one of you. My gratitude is deeper than I can express in words. I will leave it to my practice then to express my fellowship with and commitment to you.



          • Genshin
            • Jan 2013
            • 467

            David, well said. I am grateful for everything and everyone here. It is as authentic, if not more so than anywhere else I have been.
            Deep bows to you all.


            • Mp

              Thank you for this David and I too am very grateful for our teachers Jundo and Taigu ... for all the wonderful Sangha members.



              • Dosho
                • Jun 2008
                • 5784

                Hear, hear! And deep bows.

                Last edited by Dosho; 06-29-2013, 03:50 AM.


                • Joe
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 52

                  I echo these statements. My gratitude is expansive.

                  Deep deep bows




                  • Joyo

                    I also have much gratitude for TreeLeaf, Jundo, Taigu, and everyone here. I am new and I am already so very thankful for TreeLeaf.



                    • Geika
                      Treeleaf Unsui
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4980

                      I feel the same. Bows to everyone; 108 to Jundo and Taigu.
                      求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                      I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.


                      • Heisoku
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1338

                        Deep bows to one, two and all! _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
                        Heisoku 平 息
                        Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home. (Basho)


                        • Kyonin
                          Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 6742

                          Treeleaf is as real a Zendo as any.

                          It all comes down to how you embrace new technology and how you commit to your practice.

                          Sure, a Zendo near your house might feel "real" but reality comes from your practice and from the confidence the teachers create.

                          Our teachers here in Treeleaf have created something unique that helps people like me, who lives in a place where zen belongs in movies and new age magazines, to have a home and a real temple to go to.

                          And then there's the people here who practice and sit together with no borders or time.

                          We learn and support each other.

                          Treeleaf is home.


                          Hondō Kyōnin
                          奔道 協忍


                          • KellyRok
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1374



                            • Daitetsu
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1145

                              I fully agree with what has been said here.

                              I even think that there is more communication/interaction in this Sangha thanks to different time zones. There is always someone here, you can sit at different times with different people, and even if it is "only" with the recording.
                              People really care for each other in times of crisis and are lucky for others when something nice occurred (equally important IMHO).

                              However, I do hope I'll meet at least some of you guys "in person" one day...


                              no thing needs to be added