One moon, many reflections

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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    One moon, many reflections

    As I was reading a biography of Trungpa Rinpoche written by his wife, I recalled something that happened some twenty years ago in Calais. A tibetan association had invited a prestigious guest, nobody but a relative of the Dalai lama s family, a very educated Tibetan woman spreaking perfect American English and giving a talk about Tibet and the Chinese invasion. I was in charge of translating. At the end we ended up with a few friends of the tibetan cause at a local restaurant when the Karmapa controversy came in the conversation, this big leader had two incarnations, both claiming the throne of the Karmapa and the right to rule over many centers in the world. The Tibetan lady was very adamant, they could only be one true Karmapa, it had to be the Dalai Lama's choice and the other one could only be a political puppet, a fake, an insult to the true dharma. At that point I just said this: "just like the beautiful bright silver round moon in the sky reflected in countless ponds and bowls filled with water, a principle such as Karmapa could be displayed in many places, many moons can manifest, all of them being the expression of the one. The one is living in the many, the many returns to the one".Poor girl, she was so pissed and very suddely turned very agressive, and she behaved like a true arrogant Tibetan aristocrat telling me I did not understand Tibetan Buddhism, Buddhism itself and the sacred teachings of Lord Buddha. I kept my mouth shut at that point, smiled at her and finished my delicious icecream not really willing to create a diplomatic stir in the North of France.

    I was very happy to read the words of Khyentse Rinpoche about Trungpa's rebirth in The book about Trungpa:" you should not worry, Rinpoche might have many rebirths. it is like when you look at hte moon reflected in a bowl of water. If you look in one than one bowl a ta time, you might see many many reflections. But they are all reflecting the same thing".

    I don t know about the future or past lives. I don t care much about it. All I know is that I can see in my students or people or moments aspects of Kannon, faces of Monju, I can meet manifestations of Boddhisatvas.

    Once you truly understand how insane the idea of a self is, how real is impermanence, as soon as you drop the belief system you have been given, the world opens up freely to incredible possibilities, the non dual blooms everywhere.

    This Tibetan aristocrat thought she knew. Hopefully, her eyes opened to this. This is my wish.

    For you, too.


  • Myozan Kodo
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • May 2010
    • 1901

    Gassho, with thanks.


    • Kokuu
      Treeleaf Priest
      • Nov 2012
      • 6783

      Wise words, Taigu.

      I have been part of the Kagyu school and seen the Karmapa division first hand. A close friend of mine follows one Karmapa whereas my own teacher was a student of Kalu Rinpoche which should have put me in the other camp. As well as Khyentse Rinpoche saying those wise words about a rebirth not necessarily being limited to one tulku, Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche said there may be a time in which there are two Karmapas rather than one. However, in attachment blossoms fall and the game of 'my Karmapa is best' still seems quite popular.

      Like you, I just don't know about past or future lives and when I sit or see the joy or sorrow in the face of another it all falls away in any case.



      • Genshin
        • Jan 2013
        • 467

        Thank you for this teaching Taigu.

        Last edited by Genshin; 05-31-2013, 01:27 PM.


        • Juki
          • Dec 2012
          • 771

          Thank you for this teaching.

          "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden


          • Taikyo
            Friend of Treeleaf
            • Nov 2012
            • 363

            Again a lesson learned. Thank you Taigu

            In Gassho



            • Buddhahood
              • May 2013
              • 14

              Thank you for this teaching, Taigu.



              • Yugen

                Sometimes to say anything would be to distract from the beauty, clarity and presence of this teaching. So I will just say a heartfelt "thank you"



                • Mp

                  Thank you Taigu.



                  • Myoku
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1487

                    Originally posted by Taigu
                    Once you truly understand how insane the idea of a self is, how real is impermanence, as soon as you drop the belief system you have been given, the world opens up freely to incredible possibilities, the non dual blooms everywhere.
                    Thank you, Taigu,
                    maybe one day someone will read this words too, in a book. Maybe written in the book of life, as it goes on and on,


                    • Shokai
                      Treeleaf Priest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 6391

                      Thank you Taigu.

                      Sent from my SGH-I317M using Tapatalk 2
                      gassho, Shokai

                      仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                      "Open to life in a benevolent way"



                      • Heisoku
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1338

                        Thank you Taigu.
                        Heisoku 平 息
                        Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home. (Basho)


                        • arnold
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 78

                          Thank you Rev. Taigu. Perhaps in cases such as this, the true incarnation is the one who says:

                          "If in the north
                          there's a quarrel
                          or a lawsuit
                          saying it's not worth it
                          stop it"

                          Which in this case is Miazawa Kenji, but it could be any Bodhisattva any time.

                          In Gassho,


                          • KellyRok
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1374

                            Thank you Taigu! My hope is that we all see more than just a glimpse of this for ourselves. I still struggle with seeing things with eyes wide open at times.



                            • Shujin
                              Treeleaf Unsui
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 974

                              Kyōdō Shujin 教道 守仁