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  • Taigu
    Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
    • Aug 2008
    • 2710

    A good old story

    This is in essence what a Sufi teacher once taught a bunch of greedy believers, torn between fear and awe:

    To the question, how shall I go to heaven, master? The master first remained silent. Then he broke into an irresistible laughter. After a while he said:

    You? In Heaven? What for? Hell is a far better place for people like you...there in the midst of illusion and in a sea of fire you have a great work to do, many people to practice with, a perfect place for saints as they can teach the way to deluded beings. Heaven? A perfect place for criminals and sinners, they have to practice virtue and loving kindness, what a great punishment and unbearable task!


    If you can read Dogen, that is to say, when you look into your life, you ll see clearly that both can be dropped. This teaching is very close to the fierce roar of a famous Zen teacher of old Oka Daijun Sotan who used to be of the great inspirations of the young Sawaki Kodo:

    To students coming in Dokusan , shaking from head to foot, he ised to shout: how do you dare asking for the Dharma, look at you! Look at you!

    Sawaki Kodo said about these moments where priests in training were going in the dokusan room with a cut bowels feel: this was the roar of the lion in a chicken s ear!

    That's the roar of zazen! When you drop lion, chicken, Buddha and self, good and bad, thoughts about this and that, then...Samsara and Nirvana are neither one nor two.

    Please stop worrying about this and wishing to get that.


    Gassho

    Taigu
  • Myozan Kodo
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • May 2010
    • 1901

    #2
    I'll never forget this one.
    Gassho
    Myozan

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    • Kaishin
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 2322

      #3
      Thank you, Taigu.
      Thanks,
      Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
      Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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      • Mp

        #4
        Yes, wonderful Taigu, thank you.

        Gassho
        Shingen

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        • Heion
          Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 232

          #5
          I like it! Highlights a lot of the insecurities about the afterlife and squashes them.

          With metta,
          Alex
          Look upon the world as a bubble,
          regard it as a mirage;
          who thus perceives the world,
          him Mara, the king of death, does not see.


          —Dhammapada



          Sat Today

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          • Nameless
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 461

            #6
            Very nice Taigu! Thank you for that.

            Gassho,
            John

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            • Shokai
              Dharma Transmitted Priest
              • Mar 2009
              • 6471

              #7
              Thank you Taigu;

              Like looking at a dead man; straight in the eye.

              gassho, Shokai
              合掌,生開
              gassho, Shokai

              仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

              "Open to life in a benevolent way"

              https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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              • Heisoku
                Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 1338

                #8
                Gassho, Taigu.
                Heisoku 平 息
                Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home. (Basho)

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                • lobster
                  Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 21

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Taigu
                  :
                  You? In Heaven? What for? Hell is a far better place for people like you...there in the midst of illusion and in a sea of fire you have a great work to do, many people to practice with, a perfect place for saints as they can teach the way to deluded beings. Heaven? A perfect place for criminals and sinners, they have to practice virtue and loving kindness, what a great punishment and unbearable task!
                  Reminds me of the Sufi Rabia:
                  She prayed: "O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell,
                  and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
                  But if I worship You for Your Own sake,
                  grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty.”

                  When we have a 'dharma picnic' in the hell realms, maybe she'll be there begrudging no one entry . . .

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                  • Shujin
                    Novice Priest-in-Training
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1169

                    #10
                    Thank you.

                    Gassho.
                    Kyōdō Shujin 教道 守仁

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                    • Dokan
                      Friend of Treeleaf
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1222

                      #11
                      Thank you for this teaching and reminder.

                      Gassho
                      Dokan

                      Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
                      We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
                      ~Anaïs Nin

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                      • McGettigan
                        Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 40

                        #12
                        Thank you for this teaching.

                        Gassho,
                        Mc.

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                        • Myoku
                          Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1491

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Taigu
                          Please stop worrying about this and wishing to get that.
                          thats whats I say to my mind over and over, just he not listens to me ...
                          Thank you and Gassho
                          Myoku

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                          • Buddhahood
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 14

                            #14
                            Thank you Taigu.

                            Gassho,
                            Fredrik

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                            • Myosha
                              Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 2974

                              #15
                              A lesson learned well.

                              Gassho,
                              Edward
                              "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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