No need to do zazen, therefore must do zazen

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40353

    #31
    Originally posted by John C.
    Need to think about Buddha before know that everything is Buddha and then no need to think about Buddha and then Bon Voyage! :-)


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    I think that's about it!
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Kaishin
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 2322

      #32
      Zazen holds everything, but it is also part of a larger, deeply profound religious practice.
      Thanks,
      Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
      Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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      • Andrea1974
        Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 56

        #33
        Great stuff!
        Practice does not start and end with Zazen...life is neverending practice. In that sense I find it easier to understand that "there is no need to practice...therefore we must practice".

        Gassho, A

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        • Jakugan
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 303

          #34
          Love the ocean metaphor.

          Gassho,

          Simon

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          • McGettigan
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 40

            #35
            Originally posted by Karasu
            It does sound paradoxical but, in my experience, thinking about this doesn't help me greatly. Others may feel differently. I sit Zazen to sit Zazen. For some time now I have recognised that my only part in the whole process is to practice. The rest will take care of itself. Why practice? What else would I do?

            If pressed for an answer, though, I would say that the waves of daily life can preoccupy my mind, Zazen is a way of remembering that I am actually the ocean rather than the waves.

            Gassho
            Andy
            That's a wonderful response Karasu. The concept of being , or seeing I already am, the ocean rather than the waves is one I'll hold in my head today. Deep bows.

            Gassho,
            Mc.

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            • YuimaSLC
              Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 93

              #36
              There is real value in daily recitation of verse like "Sandokai" and "Fukanzazengi" for the very reason of this discussion thread.

              "The Way is originally perfect and all-prevading. How could it be contingent on practice and realization? The true vehicle is self-sufficient. What need is there for special effort? Indeed, the whole body is free from dust. Who could believe in a means to brush it clean? It is never apart from this very place, what is the use of traveling around to practice? And yet, if there is a hairsbreadth deviation, it is like the gap between heaven and earth."



              gassho

              Richard

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