(NOT QUITE) PEACE IN E-SANGHA: Need your advice

[will]

I don't know much about the Tibetan tradition myself. It seems to use different methods to achieve pretty much the same thing. However, I'm not really sure about that. Not an expert. Really my first exposure to it.

Here are a couple of links related to Malcolm. For your comment. I listened to Samadhi and part of Prajna (while typing, might relisten).

Keep sitting and don't forget Dogen.

Gassho Will

http://dharma.org.ru/board/topic343.html

http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/relig ... isdoms.txt


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[enchentez]

KvonNJ,

Not for Agent Smith, it's not. He seems to consider himself the be-all-end-all authority and judge of what is and is not Buddhism. And the comparison to the Papal Inquisition isn't off base at all; that is basically how they run things over there in their little fiefdom.

Which would be just fine if they kept it to themselves, but they advertise and promote themselves heavily on the internet as being a "Buddhist" forum and lure many unsuspecting people who don't know that they have a hidden agenda -- those who have seen a little bit of the teachings of the Buddha, who can see the truth beyond all the superstition and want to know more, for example -- into their little fascist snake pit and proceed to use cult-indoctrination tactics and manipulation on them to push their own extremely narrow interpretations of the Buddha's teachings onto them.

They do a terrible disservice to the Buddha's Dharma and to everyone who unknowingly falls into their trap. Many people get sucked in and leave there with a bad taste in their mouth and a warped misconception of what Buddhism is. They see the dogmatic tyranny, the abuses of "authority", and the demands for blind obedience and submission, and get the impression that this is what Buddhism is, what Buddhists are about. Too bad, because the Buddha's Dharma is a philosophical, psychological, and religious system whose time has come in the post-Enlightenment world of today. It's just a travesty that unsuspecting people wind up Googling "Buddhist forum", click on the first link they see, and come away with the sad impression that Buddhists are more like Fred Phelps than Thich Nhat Hanh.

[Jundo]

How about we let this matter just settle down again? Keep to positive speech and thoughts?

Let's talk about other things better?

Gassho, Jundo

[Jun]

How about we let this matter just settle down again? Keep to positive speech and thoughts?

Let's talk about other things better?

Gassho, Jundo

Agreed, I see no point in discussing this at all. Just leave it be.

[enchentez]

Fine by me. At one point there was some discussion of possible solutions, which is really where my interest lies.

What needs to be said has been said. I agree that further discussion of the problem is not really necessary here.

[will]

I just posted that as a matter of interest and to possibly learn something.

I don't really know too much about that tradition.

Anyway, Have fun guys.

Gassho Will