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  • Myozan Kodo
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • May 2010
    • 1901

    Rakusu Worn Under Clothes

    Hi Taigu and all,
    I read somewhere recently that while Buddhism was suppressed in Japan monks wore the rakusu hidden under lay clothing. Is there any truth to this story does anyone know?
    Gassho
    Myozan
    Last edited by Myozan Kodo; 02-28-2013, 04:43 PM.
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 41217

    #2
    Hi,

    I have heard different versions of this story, from China not from Japan:

    The rakusu was created during the devastating persecutions of Buddhism in
    China during the 9th century CE. Monastics were forcibly returned to lay life, and some of them made
    rakusus, which could be easily hidden under ordinary clothes, as a miniature version of the robes they were
    no longer allowed to wear.


    However, there are alternative origins ...

    Some say that it developed during the transition to manual labor in China, because a full kasa was cumbersome. Some say it was originated during a time of persecution, so that Buddhists could wear the kasa, hidden and safe, under their outer clothing. It’s also been suggested that started as simply the “cloth bag that wandering monks wore to carry alms bowl and other small items,” which was later “formalized as a monastic ‘accoutrement’.” There are even Japanese scholars who believe that it was developed in Japan during the Edo or Tokugawa Era, as the result of sumptuary regulations which limited the size and fabric type of clerical wear.



    I know an interesting story from Japan in the other direction. When the so called "hidden Christians" were persecuted in Feudal times, they hid their statues of Mary and Jesus as Kannon ... so called "Maria Kannon" ... Certain signs on it, like a subtle crucifix, show its intended meaning. I have a statue in my house I believe to be so.




    Gassho, J
    Last edited by Jundo; 03-05-2013, 02:44 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Myozan Kodo
      Friend of Treeleaf
      • May 2010
      • 1901

      #3
      Thanks Jundo. Really interesting. Sometimes I wear a rakusu over my shirt but under my jumper / sweater at work. I work in a secular environment, so, the robe is totally hidden from sight. It reminds me of the way right there in the middle of my working day.
      Gassho
      Myozan

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      • Kyonin
        Dharma Transmitted Priest
        • Oct 2010
        • 6752

        #4
        Very interesting!

        Thank you, Jundo.

        Gassho,

        Kyonin
        Hondō Kyōnin
        奔道 協忍

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 41217

          #5
          Originally posted by Myozan Kodo
          Thanks Jundo. Really interesting. Sometimes I wear a rakusu over my shirt but under my jumper / sweater at work. I work in a secular environment, so, the robe is totally hidden from sight. It reminds me of the way right there in the middle of my working day.
          Gassho
          Myozan
          Hmm. Not so common to hide the Rakusu under a sweater, but if it is okay with Taigu it is fine with me.

          Most Japanese priests I know (as far as I know), either wear theirs or take them off. Nishijima Roshi often wore a business suit and would wear a Rakusu or full Kesa over it when lecturing and such ...





          ... but for business, would keep his folded in its bag when not wearing it, or for example, on the train.



          Gassho, J
          Last edited by Jundo; 03-05-2013, 02:45 AM.
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          • Myozan Kodo
            Friend of Treeleaf
            • May 2010
            • 1901

            #6
            Hi,
            Thanks Jundo. I usually do take mine off. This is something I do on occasion. I've mentioned it to Taigu a few times over the last few years.

            If the story is true that the hidden rakusu is part of the tradition, then this way of wearing the rakusu does, in a way, pay homage to that tradition. Doesn't it?

            Of course, I will take instruction on this.

            By the way, I also take my rakusu if I'm travelling, going on a hike, etc. I always remember Taigu's teachings from those original YouTube films on this. What? Four or five years ago now? Filmed in a hot Japanese summer, in Jundo's place, I think.

            Did you know people in other sangha are now using those films in sewing? I know the SFZC people are.

            A great contribution to the history of the robe.

            Gassho
            Myozan

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            • Genshin
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 467

              #7
              Fascinating thread. A lesson a day. Thanks for sharing!

              Gassho
              Matt

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              • Taigu
                Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                • Aug 2008
                • 2710

                #8
                I don' t know if monks were hiding their rakusus under their clothing, Myozan.

                Take care


                Gassho


                T.

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                • Myozan Kodo
                  Friend of Treeleaf
                  • May 2010
                  • 1901

                  #9
                  Hi,
                  It seems there are many stories connected with the rakusu. It is a story that makes sense, however. It does seem credible. Here, when Catholicism was suppressed, priests dressed in lay clothing and went among the people. There were secret masses, etc. Was Buddhism seriously suppressed in Japan? I have to look into the history...
                  Gassho
                  Myozan

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 41217

                    #10
                    This is a good place to put an old visit with Nishijima Roshi when he was in better health than today. His subject was wearing the Kesa (called "Kāṣāya" in Sanscrit). The sit-a-long was recorded in his tiny retirement apartment ...



                    Gassho, J
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • Amelia
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4980

                      #11
                      I never noticed before that Nishijima Roshi is in a movie called "The Zen Mind" that I watched years ago.

                      求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                      I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                      • Shokai
                        Dharma Transmitted Priest
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6530

                        #12
                        Thank you Myozan for this thread also Jundo and Geika for the video clips. I received a copy of the Shobogenzo upon joining the zazen group at Shokoji in Yamane-cho in Hiroshima and subsequently lost it in moving. It wasn't until around 2004 that I was reminded of it and started to search on the internet where i became familiar with Nishijima-roshi and his work and came across Treeleaf a few years later as a result. Following that I of course learned of the kasaya and rakusu; those funny things I had seen some of the zazen group wearing. Most of all i am thankful for these endearing images of our Dharma Grandad gleaned from your vids.
                        Nishijima.jpg

                        gassho, Shokai
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                        gassho, Shokai

                        仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

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                        • Nenka
                          Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1240

                          #13
                          Did you know people in other sangha are now using those films in sewing? I know the SFZC people are.
                          That might be happening around here, too. Last fall I sat with a local group a couple times. One person was making a rakusu but had stalled on a tricky part. I told her about how I made mine from the videos, and how we had a sort of virtual sewing circle here, and for the first time since I'd mentioned being part of an online sangha, a light seemed to go on. "Sewing circle, of course!" '

                          Gassho,

                          Jen

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                          • Amelia
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4980

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shokai
                            Thank you Myozan for this thread also Jundo and Geika for the video clips.
                            You're welcome.

                            Originally posted by Shokai
                            Most of all i am thankful for these endearing images of our Dharma Grandad gleaned from your vids.
                            Me too

                            Gassho
                            求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                            I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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