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  • DGF
    Member
    • Feb 2022
    • 118

    Heart sutra and breathing

    Hello everyone,

    iam learning the heart sutra and chanting in japanese,while iam practice i feel a bit confused with my breathing.

    When do i breath in and when do i breath out. While am chanting the Heart sutra.
    What is the timing. Is it just as it is?

    Iam sorry if i missed a post about this.
    I couldnt find it or i searched it wrong.

    Gassha
    Sat
    Diana
  • Shujin
    Novice Priest-in-Training
    • Feb 2010
    • 1288

    #2
    Hi Diana,

    There may be varying opinions on this, but I don't focus on my breathing during chanting. I approaching chanting as reciting a text, rather than singing, so I just let the body take care of inhaling/exhaling.

    Gassho,
    Shujin

    st/lah
    Kyōdō Shujin 教道 守仁

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    • Junsho
      Member
      • Mar 2024
      • 266

      #3
      Hi Diana,

      If you are interested we have a chanting circle to practice exactly this. In general we follow a chant book but if there just us there, we can give focus in the heart sutra. Also, participate of our cerimonies as well be part of our chanting circle will make you improve it in no time.

      Gassho!
      SatLah
      Junshō 純聲 - Pure Voice, Genuine Speech
      ​​​​​​
      If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.” - Linji Yixuan​​

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      • Bion
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Aug 2020
        • 5607

        #4
        Originally posted by DGF
        Hello everyone,

        iam learning the heart sutra and chanting in japanese,while iam practice i feel a bit confused with my breathing.

        When do i breath in and when do i breath out. While am chanting the Heart sutra.
        What is the timing. Is it just as it is?

        Iam sorry if i missed a post about this.
        I couldnt find it or i searched it wrong.

        Gassha
        Sat
        Diana
        Just breathe normally whenever needed, while trying to complete the syllables. If you choose a steady and moderate rhythm, you will have time to inhale in between syllables.
        Here's an example from our Monthly Zazenkai (starting at minute 8:36). I hope that helps:



        Gassho
        sat lah
        Last edited by Bion; 03-17-2025, 04:14 PM.
        "A person should train right here & now.
        Whatever you know as discordant in the world,
        don't, for its sake, act discordantly,
        for that life, the enlightened say, is short." - The Buddha

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 42338

          #5
          I also offer simple singing advice ... breathe from the diaphragm, deep, not high up in the chest.

          Also, don't pause on breaths, but keep going with the beat, resuming after the breath as if one had not stopped.

          One example is to watch some priests. These two priests are Shingon priests, not Soto-Zen, but the style of chanting is almost ** the same. You can see that they each take a breath at different moments, but keep going without pausing. Also, voice is deep and resonant. The exact place where a breath is taken does not really matter. Each body is different, so you do as your body needs. However, nice breaths, deep from the diaphragm ..
          . Gassho, Jundo
          stlah

          ** (By the way, Shingon has a slight difference in wording in their Heart Sutra chant, discussed here if you wish to go down that rabbit hole) ...

          Dear All, It is said that we study certain texts such as the Heart Sutra for their pointers on Wisdom and Emptiness, then place the text down to throw our "self" into the sound and movement of reciting the Heart Sutra in order to embody this Wisdom and Emptiness, losing and finding oneself again. My Dharma
          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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