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  • pinoybuddhist
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    That's how I read it as well: just sitting with/for Saya, with maybe a , maybe a virtual , maybe a chant... a at the universe/life/god/whatever... or a song...

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  • Hans
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    Hello,

    here's another two cents of mine. Taigu wrote a (in my view/experience) couple of very emotional lines referring to actual life experiences of his that also tie in with recent tragical political developments. He invited people to sit with him. I posted a link to a short seven line chant version of the Zen tradition's Sweet Gates of Nectar thingie, which hadn't really been part of my practise before hand and which I found very powerful due to its having a melody and it being so brief. Nobody in this whole thread ever even suggested that sitting down and/or even incorporating a tiny seven line chant from our tradition was going to be the best way of dealing with a political crisis. Nobody claimed any of the words would transform into magical fireballs. Nobody.
    It was (as I and I guess most others understood it) just about sitting with/for Saya and really connecting with the reality at hand.

    Gassho,

    Hans Chudo Mongen

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  • Taigu
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    Then Bro...

    Why Metta or keeping anybody in our thoughts?
    If this is all Abracadra and useless magical thinking , what to say of the Japanese ending of the Hannya Shingyo and its ridiculous phonetical rendering of the original Sanskrit? What to say of the Enmei Jukku Kannon Gyo and the content of all the dedications we sing?



    In my humble lineage, there is a strong mystical element at work, a powerful perception of nature and its forces, elements of shamanism, far from the shores of cynicism and the only trust in gold and gun power. I am not far from the sufi poets anf feel at home in Shinto shrines ( what seems to irritate you in Hixon s prose is what I love) Taking action and playing my part in the visible world, I also surrender to the unknown and celebrate the oneness of all things. Dreams, visions and symbols play their part in this,I am not forcing anything, just allowing the dance.

    And you do too!!! that s why your rejection is a bit out of tune with your song.

    The source of it all being, and there we agree, the boundless empty field of Shikantaza.

    Gassho


    Taigu
    Last edited by Taigu; 08-30-2012, 05:44 AM.

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  • Jundo
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    Someone wrote to ask me to explain a bit more.

    Isn't this the same as prayer - is it any different to chanting the heart sutra?


    I chant the Heart Sutra for what it teaches on Emptiness, and chanting the chant and being chanted by the chant, all is thrown into the living dance of Emptiness. That is magic enough to heal the world, and I do not chant it in any way for some wizard's power it may provide to help the poor world and the world's poor.

    I recently saw the great folk singer Pete Seeger, now 94, do a rendition of the below sacred chant. If one wants to chant the Gate of Sweet Nectar with that same heart of compassion to fix this world, then they are just the same. It makes our heart feel good, inspires, maybe helps us keep up the struggle to fix this broken world. If someone wants to chant Gate of Sweet Nectar with that same spirit as Bodhisattva Bro. Seeger, I will chant with you with all I have ... I get goosebumps ...



    ... but chanting some hocus pocus nonsense while believing or hoping it has mystical effect on the world situation beyond being an inspirational folk tune? No, that's a waste of good breath and I will not have it around my parts of here. (Also, the whole thing .... whether singing some Buddhist Chant or humming a Pete Seeger protest song ... is in danger of becoming just another example of middle class people sitting in their air conditioned suburban homes feeling that they are doing something to change the world. We must be cautious about that too.)

    This is a continuation of another conversation we recently had on Dharani such as those which fill the "Gate of Sweet Nectar", and the whole abracadabra at its core ...

    I've been having an e-mail exchange with Jundo over the past few days, and one of the things I commented on was my discomfort with the rituals that are practiced in Zen. I thought it would be a good idea to post my thoughts here, and see what you all think. Here's what I said first: I've been hanging around Treeleaf pretty


    This Saturday, for our monthly Zazenkai, I have decided to replace our usual chant of the "Identity of Relative and Absolute" (another chant that speaks worlds, and is no mere magic spell) with the following, and if we chant it will all one's heart, all sincerity, it will have as much meaning as chanting the "Gate of Sweet Nectar" for all the suffering beings in the world ...

    (Run on Inkan bell and 3 bows)
    (Officiant offers incense)
    Ø Ø Ø ∆
    IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL
    Ø [accompanied by mokugyo drum]

    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small, small world

    its a world of laughter and a world of tears
    its a world of hopes and a world of fears
    there's so much that we share
    that is time we're aware
    its a small world after all

    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small, small world

    there is just one moon
    and one golden sun
    and a smile means friendship to everyone
    though the mountains divide
    and the oceans are wide

    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small world after all
    its a small, small world


    Truly a beautiful, powerful, hopeful song if one let's it into one's heart.

    Sorry, just how I feel about some Buddhist rituals.

    Gassho, Jundo
    Last edited by Jundo; 08-30-2012, 03:32 AM.

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  • RichardH
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    I will sit with Saya and the whole stream of suffering going on every day near and far. I can't imagine a solution in Syria. There is so much intrigue involving so many different countries and interests . No white hats, no happy ending... at least not for some time it seems. I hope there is some stability so some kind of ordinary life can go on.

    Gassho, kojip.

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  • AlanLa
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    Saya puts a Buddhist story to all the strife in Syria, and when I sit I sit with her already, but knowing this story adds to my knowledge of that sitting with her strife in a new and profound way, and for that I am grateful to you, Taigu.

    The chant seems like a form of metta, a chant we already do, but much more melodious, catchy yet uniquely meaningful. I like it on many levels, though I don't expect to add it to my practice.

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  • Shugen
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    I will sit as well


    Shugen

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  • Ola Nelsson
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    I will sit

    Gassho
    Ola

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  • Heisoku
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    We all sit together as one in this world of suffering and especially with those who are enduring in the hope that our sitting will reach those who are enduring thus strengthening them.

    There are so many people like this.


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    Last edited by Heisoku; 08-30-2012, 12:26 AM.

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  • Kyonin
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    We are all family.

    Saya is our sister too and we will sit for her and for peace.

    Thank you for sharing, Taigu.

    Deep gassho,

    Kyonin

    Originally posted by Taigu
    In 1989, as I was teaching in Latakia in Syria, I have met a young woman who was studying French literature and language at the local University. Her name was Saya. At the time, I was send by the French governement to teach graduate students and adults. She was a very beatiful young lady, full of wit, enthusiasm and drive, full of passion for a freedom she did not have because of the Assad 's regime (the father of the sad ad crual clown they have now). I was sitting secretly and sharing some Dharma stuff with some people ( for instance my dear friend Nafez translated Suzuki Zen mind, beginner's mind into Arabic and got it published). At the time she sometimes visited my flat asking questions about Buddhist practice and she sat a few times. Because of the first Gulf war, I had to move out of the country never to return and we did not keep in touch. Two years later, I met her by chance in a sesshin (intensive period of practice), her head was shaved and she was wearing the okesa. She was a priest in training and studying French in Paris. Her determination and will to change something in her country was much alive in her, and she was planning to go back to Syria to make it happen, somehow. She left and I have never heard about her anymore. Since this civil war started, I think of her everyday. I wonder if she is still alive because knowing her, she must have been one of the leaders of the rebellion. I dearly love her. She is my sister in the Dharma. It is heart-breaking to think about these people I left behind, and it is OK.

    I would like to ask my closest students and everybody willing to join to sit with Saya and all the people that fell and will fall on both sides. That's all really.

    gassho


    Taigu

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  • Nindo
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    It is not often that we hear about practitioners in Arab countries.
    The hardship in Syria is unimaginable. Yes, we should sit with them.
    Thank you for the post, Taigu.

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  • Jinyo
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    Originally posted by Hans
    Hello,

    may I suggest and add a whispered "please" to not politicise this thread (I didn't start the thread, this is just me sharing my gut reaction).

    Gassho,

    Hans Chudo Mongen
    Very occasionally - seemingly out of the ether - a whole lot of heat blasts off the pages of Tree Leaf.

    I liked the chant Hans (didn't successfully download it - the version I ended up with was spoken so lacked the melody) - but am I missing something concerning wider issues concerning Bernie Glassman, Zen peace movements, whatever?

    I feel you offered an emotional response to Taigu's memories/current thoughts of someone he held dear and that's the point that matters.

    The full version of the chant that Jundo typed in is very long - not something I'd be adding to my daily ritual - but if others find it helps them to connect to the suffering in the world what harm is there in it?

    Isn't this the same as prayer - is it any different to chanting the heart sutra?

    In an ideal world connection leads to action - if chanting helps people to connect so be it.

    Gassho

    Willow

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  • Risho
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    I will sit for Saya and wish her and her people well. It's amazing the things I take for granted in my life. I mean just amazing. I do take note of things I'm thankful for, but it's not too soon afterward that I'm off again into some drama that steals my focus from not remembering all the blessings I've been endowed with.

    Gassho,

    Risho

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  • Myozan Kodo
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    Hi,
    Isn't practice realisation?
    Gassho
    Myozan

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  • Shohei
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    Originally posted by Jundo
    A true international peace-keeping force to defend human rights worldwide would be a start
    Just want to point out canada has a bit of history in that end of things.




    not to mention those on ladies and gentlemen on the local peace (police) keeping scene


    Also I do not chant much else but the heart sutra and the other regular zazenkai stuffs/Sesshin stuff, and I see no harm in any kind of positive thought when that is all we have at that moment.

    Getting off our Duffs, out and working in our community (local or global or universal if you will) is a must and possibly the only way, but it has to start somewhere?

    Sometimes that is all I can give at that moment (and probably safest for all... no one need me going in half cocked!)

    I do not say "I will keep you/them/all in my (sometimes best - meaning positive) thoughts"
    as a light thing to just make me feel good - its not to set my ego up for another jump...its heart/mind/body felt and I DO this, keep the suffering of others in the forefront of my mind as something to work towards ending in any way I can(knowing its beginning-less and endless. In that light I also give a quick wink and nod to the Universe as it were...(Buddha/Alah/God/Spaghetti Monster) for an end to the needless suffering (Might be careful what I wish for as that could come in a big ol comet or meteor ) I do and still will work towards being able to hands-on help where possible.

    My gobbly gook or others I do not see the harm.

    Just my useless 2 cents

    Gassho
    Shohei

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