mantra work

[Mp]

Now I've talked too much. Don't pay so much attention to my words. Just sit. Sit often and regularly.

I too like this point, thank you Jundo ... added to my quote list.

Gassho
Michael

[Jundo]

I too like this point, thank you Jundo ... added to my quote list.

Gassho
Michael

I believe the quote comes from Richard (YuimaSLC), who was quoting many others.

Gassho, J

[Mp]

I believe the quote comes from Richard (YuimaSLC), who was quoting many others.

Gassho, J

Excellent, thanks Jundo.

Gassho
Michael

[galen]

Non-attainment Goallessness is most certainly our goal to attain, and we strive sincerely and diligently to attain them, as if our hair were on fire and we needed to put it out!

How do we attain the goal of Non-Attaining Goallessness, putting that fire out?

By radically, to the marrow, dropping all thoughts of Goals and need to Attain.

Piece of cake.

Now I've talked too much. Don't pay so much attention to my words. Just sit. Sit often and regularly.

Gassho, J

Thank you for that delicious piece of cake!

So we attain 'the goal' of Non-Attaining Goallessness, by putting out the fire with that goal in mind.

I sit often and very regularly, thank you. At regular hours, for the most part, and over 2 hours for the most part.

[Jundo]

I sit often and very regularly, thank you. At regular hours, for the most part, and over 2 hours for the most part.

Sounds like you are working very hard to get someplace which, in the end, is no place that can be gotten. That can be good or bad, depending on how one is "non-striving striving". Don't overshoot or undershoot the non-target.

Sitting 4 hours or 8 hours brings one no closer or farther no matter how hard one tries, yet sitting 2 minutes or 2 years may be miles away if trying too hard or not enough. Depends on how one sits.

Gassho, J

PS - This is why Zen folks get the reputation for talking in what sounds like riddles.

[Jiken]

Sounds like you are working very hard to get someplace which, in the end, is no place that can be gotten. That can be good or bad, depending on how one is "non-striving striving". Don't overshoot or undershoot the non-target.

Sitting 4 hours or 8 hours brings one no closer or farther no matter how hard one tries, yet sitting 2 minutes or 2 years may be miles away if trying too hard or not enough. Depends on how one sits.

Gassho, J

PS - This is why Zen folks get the reputation for talking in what sounds like riddles.

Thanks Jundo. I found this to be extremely useful.

Gassho,

Daido

[Risho]

Non-attainment Goallessness is most certainly our goal to attain, and we strive sincerely and diligently to attain them, as if our hair were on fire and we needed to put it out!

How do we attain the goal of Non-Attaining Goallessness, putting that fire out?

By radically, to the marrow, dropping all thoughts of Goals and need to Attain.

Piece of cake.

Now I've talked too much. Don't pay so much attention to my words. Just sit. Sit often and regularly.

Gassho, J

hahhahahah thank you I just read this and it made me smile.

Gassho,

Risho

[galen]

Sounds like you are working very hard to get someplace which, in the end, is no place that can be gotten. That can be good or bad, depending on how one is "non-striving striving". Don't overshoot or undershoot the non-target.

Sitting 4 hours or 8 hours brings one no closer or farther no matter how hard one tries, yet sitting 2 minutes or 2 years may be miles away if trying too hard or not enough. Depends on how one sits.

Gassho, J

PS - This is why Zen folks get the reputation for talking in what sounds like riddles.

I sit on my head . Thanks Jundo.

[galen]

Non-attainment Goallessness is most certainly our goal to attain, and we strive sincerely and diligently to attain them, as if our hair were on fire and we needed to put it out!

How do we attain the goal of Non-Attaining Goallessness, putting that fire out?

By radically, to the marrow, dropping all thoughts of Goals and need to Attain.

Piece of cake.

Now I've talked too much. Don't pay so much attention to my words. Just sit. Sit often and regularly.

Gassho, J

Your welcome . Always teaching in my own Way .