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  • keniz138
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 11

    Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

    Anyone else have this problem? I have tried resting the hands in my lap, holding them against my abdomen, and all kinds of spacing of the hands and still, my pinky fingers ache after sitting. What may be causing this?

    Also, is it important for the thumbs to be at naval level, or can they be lower if sitting quarter lotus/burmese?
  • Kyosei
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 356

    #2
    Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

    Originally posted by keniz138
    Also, is it important for the thumbs to be at naval level, or can they be lower if sitting quarter lotus/burmese?
    Good question, I´ve been questioning the same after my last Zazen period.

    Taking advantage of the question, I would like to ask why do we do that mudra? what is it importance/ historical background if any?
    _/|\_

    Kyōsei

    強 Kyō
    声 Sei

    Namu kie Butsu, Namu kie Ho, Namu kie So.

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    • mark
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 31

      #3
      Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

      Hi,
      I rest my hands on a very small pillow when I sit. This seems to make the mudra more comfortable. Prior to doing this, the hand position was a bit difficult to maintain. Perhaps it is worth try.
      M

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      • Taigu
        Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
        • Aug 2008
        • 2710

        #4
        Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

        hi guys,

        The full lotus provides natural support for hands to rest. If you don t do it, you have to use a blanket, a towel, a pillow or something to relieve the stress on the arms and shoulders as well as relaxing the arm muscles. pinky finger pain is due to too much pressure. Touching the abdomen does not mean pressing.

        The hokaijoin is the great mudra of non duality and has a profound meaning I don t want to talk about. Find it yourself through practice!

        Gassho

        Taigu

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        • Koshin
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 938

          #5
          Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

          Originally posted by Taigu

          The hokaijoin is the great mudra of non duality and has a profound meaning I don t want to talk about. Find it yourself through practice!

          Taigu
          It´s strange, it may seem rude hearing something like this from a teacher....but, as far as my practice goes just a little bit deeper, I realize that statements like this become the best advice anyone can give you .... no one (inlcuding your teacher) can take you to the path of Buddha .... is something we can do only by ourselves, on our own feet .... at most , we can see the teacher and follow him while he walks to the Buddha. So, Practice, Practice, Practice.....

          Gassho
          Thank you for your practice

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          • Rimon
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 309

            #6
            Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

            Originally posted by Taigu

            The hokaijoin is the great mudra of non duality and has a profound meaning I don t want to talk about. Find it yourself through practice!

            Gassho

            Taigu
            Still, I wouldn't mind a little hint

            Gassho

            Rimon
            Rimon Barcelona, Spain
            "Practice and the goal of practice are identical." [i:auj57aui]John Daido Loori[/i:auj57aui]

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            • Eika
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 806

              #7
              Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

              Originally posted by keniz138
              Anyone else have this problem? I have tried resting the hands in my lap, holding them against my abdomen, and all kinds of spacing of the hands and still, my pinky fingers ache after sitting. What may be causing this?
              Reminds me of the old joke:
              Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do this. (bends his arm)
              Doctor: Well, don't do that!

              Seriously, it sounds like tension to me. You might try loosening your idea of what the mudra should look like and simply rest in the closest relaxed version of it you can easily do.

              Good luck.

              Gassho,
              Eika

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              • Rich
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2614

                #8
                Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

                Originally posted by Eika
                Originally posted by keniz138
                Anyone else have this problem? I have tried resting the hands in my lap, holding them against my abdomen, and all kinds of spacing of the hands and still, my pinky fingers ache after sitting. What may be causing this?
                Reminds me of the old joke:
                Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do this. (bends his arm)
                Doctor: Well, don't do that!

                Seriously, it sounds like tension to me. You might try loosening your idea of what the mudra should look like and simply rest in the closest relaxed version of it you can easily do.

                Good luck.

                Gassho,
                Eika

                Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
                Sound direction. Would rather have achy little fingers than achy knees Seriously - relax, find what's comfortable. My lower forearms are kinda resting on my thighs - everybody is unique. Cosmic - is that when you look at the night sky and realize how big you are or how small yu are?? What ever!
                _/_
                Rich
                MUHYO
                無 (MU, Emptiness) and 氷 (HYO, Ice) ... Emptiness Ice ...

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                • Kyosei
                  Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 356

                  #9
                  Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

                  Originally posted by Rimon
                  Originally posted by Taigu

                  The hokaijoin is the great mudra of non duality and has a profound meaning I don t want to talk about. Find it yourself through practice!

                  Gassho

                  Taigu
                  Still, I wouldn't mind a little hint

                  Gassho

                  Rimon
                  Me either! :wink:

                  Understood, Sensei Taigu. Let´s practice, then...
                  _/|\_

                  Kyōsei

                  強 Kyō
                  声 Sei

                  Namu kie Butsu, Namu kie Ho, Namu kie So.

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                  • Omoi Otoshi
                    Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 801

                    #10
                    Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

                    Come on guys, he did hint!
                    Non-duality!
                    Does it matter what is means to Taigu?

                    Gassho,
                    Pontus
                    In a spring outside time, flowers bloom on a withered tree;
                    you ride a jade elephant backwards, chasing the winged dragon-deer;
                    now as you hide far beyond innumerable peaks--
                    the white moon, a cool breeze, the dawn of a fortunate day

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                    • Rimon
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 309

                      #11
                      Re: Pinky fingers ache after cosmic mudra

                      Originally posted by Omoi Otoshi
                      Come on guys, he did hint!
                      Non-duality!
                      Does it matter what is means to Taigu?

                      Gassho,
                      Pontus
                      Very good point Pontus

                      Deep gassho

                      Rimon
                      Rimon Barcelona, Spain
                      "Practice and the goal of practice are identical." [i:auj57aui]John Daido Loori[/i:auj57aui]

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