life sucks and Dogen's death poem

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  • Kyotai

    #16
    Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

    Thank you

    Shawn

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    • Seiryu
      Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 622

      #17
      Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

      Life sucks indeed. Yet within all that craziness and suffering that is life, is beauty, happiness, everything perfect just the way it is.

      Life sucks because we put ourselves in the way. Our little "I" doesn't like wants happening and begins to complain and get scared when the floor begins to be taken away from it. This is where our gentle practice really begins to manifest itself in the world. To allow ourselves to just be with what is, and be OK with it, while at the same time looking for a "better" moment to live in.

      just my useless thoughts...
      Humbly,
      清竜 Seiryu

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      • Marek
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 161

        #18
        Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

        Originally posted by Taigu
        Life sucks and it is OK!
        I'm gonna sit with these words today.

        _/_
        Gassho,
        Marek

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        • Jiken
          Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 753

          #19
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          Originally posted by Rich
          If life sucks and its OK then I should probably stop worrying so much.

          Awesome and to the point. Don't add more suck to it since there is nothing more to add. It can suck enough on its own sometimes

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          • Shugen
            Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 4532

            #20
            Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

            I don't know why but this thread made me smile.

            Ron
            Meido Shugen
            明道 修眼

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            • Dosho
              Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 5784

              #21
              Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

              Thank you for this teaching Taigu.

              Gassho,
              Dosho

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              • Onken
                Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 106

                #22
                Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

                Gassho...
                Gassho,
                Onken

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                • BrianW
                  Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 511

                  #23
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                  Taigu,

                  Much thanks for this. I faintly remember hearing this poem, but your presentation seems to have made an impression. Sometimes things just don't stick and you hear them again with a bit of a twist and bang!

                  Gassho,
                  Jisen/BrianW

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                  • pinoybuddhist
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 462

                    #24
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                    Thank you so much Taigu. THis really resonates with me at the moment. My two-year-old son is down with a urinary tract infection and a respiratory tract infection, and there's a possibility that he has dengue fever (we're waiting for the results as I type). What's more, my wife is down with what seems to be the flu as well. AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!! LIFE SUCKS! AND IT'S OKAY! I don't actually feel ok BUT THAT'S OKAY TOO! _/|_ and now that I've typed this I feel more like this :lol: Ahh, life...

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                    • Bids
                      Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 56

                      #25
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                      Thank you Taigu for the beautiful teaching, a timely reminder for me also …" we are fleeting, changing, fragile " remembering this helps me see through my constructions … at the same time the issue of trust makes itself felt .... I take it to the zafu.
                      Deep bow.
                      Nadi

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                      • Yugen

                        #26
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                        To accept and embrace that life sucks sometimes (without being fatalistically resigned to it), to accept the passions and emotions as part of life rather than something to be rejected..... I have been doing a lot of reading of Nikos Kazantzakis (author of Zorba the Greek, The Last Temptation of Christ, and Report to Greco, among others) - here is something from Zorba the Greek:

                        "[Y]ou must sometimes rejoice that the dark forces of destruction are so numerous and invincible: for thus your aim to live almost without hope becomes more heroic and your soul acquires a more tragic greatness."

                        Now, rejoicing in my own "dark forces of destruction" may be a bit much for me, but to accept sickness, illness, death, sadness, anger, and events in my life as friends, or companions.... then life indeed becomes full in its richness... or at least grounded in reality...

                        Kazantzakis' words to me have a great significance. I am only beginning to understand the complexity of his work on Bergson, Nietsche, Buddha, Christ....

                        Gassho,
                        Yugen

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                        • chessie
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 266

                          #27
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                          Both dramatic and so simple. Thanks so much to each of you and all of the sangha.

                          Gassho,

                          Ann (Josho)

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                          • AlanLa
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1405

                            #28
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                            Ah, my initial reaction to Dogen's death poem was to laugh out loud,
                            Honest.
                            Make that leap! If you are caught, wonderful.
                            And if you die
                            Find out for yourself
                            And live accordingly afterwards, as such I have tried
                            As best I can, honest.
                            Yet what is happening to Sada and others with life threatening illness is sad,
                            Very sad.
                            So what is our role as Buddhists in such a situation?
                            Attention.
                            Metta.
                            But change (as in death) is the leap we are all attending to,
                            The leap we are all wishing well,
                            As in better
                            As in LIFE
                            Others and ours
                            Ours and others
                            How dare we sort it out.
                            AL (Jigen) in:
                            Faith/Trust
                            Courage/Love
                            Awareness/Action!

                            I sat today

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                            • mrsedwards
                              Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 33

                              #29
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                              Thank you

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                              • Nindo

                                #30
                                Re: life sucks and Dogen's death poem

                                Thank you.
                                Yes life sucks. Boredom, sadness, fear, depression of a loved one, pain ... And then - the stars, a hug, a phone call, laughter, coyotes running on the frozen river ... life humming along, just as it is. Catching whenever we want it to be different ... and coming back - here - now. One breath. And another one.

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