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  • Ryumon
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 1785

    Buckwheat zafu

    I just got a buckwheat zafu that I ordered from an Amazon marketplace seller in the UK. It's very high, and the buckwheat is solid.

    http://www.bluebanyan.co.uk/jsp/main.jsp?lnk=117

    I have a lot of trouble sitting on a cushion - at least the one I have - because of arthritis in my knees, and the cushion not being high enough gives me back and neck pain. I could immediately feel, trying this cushion out, that not only does the additional height make me more comfortable, but the buckwheat gives a much more solid base. (I've been sleeping with a buckwheat-filled pillow for more than ten years, and it's wonderful.)

    So, anyone who finds a standard zafu uncomfortable might want to try one like this...
    I know nothing.
  • Dokan
    Friend of Treeleaf
    • Dec 2010
    • 1222

    #2
    Re: Buckwheat zafu

    I use the same. Mine is pretty flat, but I love how solid it is. Only issue I've experienced is that during the winter retreat my butt would fall asleep on occasion.

    Gassho,

    Dokan
    We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
    ~Anaïs Nin

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    • Emmet
      Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 296

      #3
      Re: Buckwheat zafu

      With a kapok zafu, I put a cushion under the back to give it (and my pelvis) a bit of a forward tilt, otherwise my back hurts. The few times I've tried buckwheat ones, they seem to assume this tilt more naturally.
      Emmet

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      • Ryumon
        Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 1785

        #4
        Re: Buckwheat zafu

        Originally posted by Piobair
        With a kapok zafu, I put a cushion under the back to give it (and my pelvis) a bit of a forward tilt, otherwise my back hurts. The few times I've tried buckwheat ones, they seem to assume this tilt more naturally.
        I used to put a thick book under the back of my kapok zafu, but it wasn't ideal. A better solution would be a wedge-shaped thing, which would provide better support. But the buckwheat seems like it will be fine. My back and knees are happy.
        I know nothing.

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        • Emmet
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 296

          #5
          Re: Buckwheat zafu

          Another suggestion from my doctor regarding arthritic knees; change position frequently. When sitting all day, I alternate between a zafu and a meditation bench, with kinhin in between (or sometimes a little stretching/yoga/qigong). While this helps enormously, I still usually end up in a chair by the end of the day; simply too many herniated and degenerated discs.
          My teacher suggested alternating which leg is in front (I sit Burmese), but alas the right knee only bends one way.
          Emmet

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          • Ryumon
            Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 1785

            #6
            Re: Buckwheat zafu

            Originally posted by Piobair
            Another suggestion from my doctor regarding arthritic knees; change position frequently. When sitting all day, I alternate between a zafu and a meditation bench, with kinhin in between (or sometimes a little stretching/yoga/qigong). While this helps enormously, I still usually end up in a chair by the end of the day; simply too many herniated and degenerated discs.
            My teacher suggested alternating which leg is in front (I sit Burmese), but alas the right knee only bends one way.
            Yes, I can only sit one way in Burmese (which is how I sit). If I try changing, I fall over. :-)
            I know nothing.

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            • Risho
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 3179

              #7
              Re: Buckwheat zafu

              I bought the buckwheat cushion from Zen Mountain Monastery. Luckily I like it I say luckily because, I have to admit, when I got it a couple years back I was in my Zen honeymoon phase, so I was just so excited to get it. Actually I still get giddy looking at it. I really like it a lot.

              I do find that my lower quadrant falls asleep too. ahhhaha
              Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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              • Kaishin
                Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2322

                #8
                Re: Buckwheat zafu

                Taigu has a video (somewhere on here) where he shows how he recommends that when you sit, lean forward and "wedge" the zafu at an angle underneath you to provide better support. I've been doing that with my kapok zafu ever since and it's made a big difference.

                Though I'd like to try that large zafu just to see how it compares. Most of my discomfort when sitting, if I'm really honest with myself, from the fact that I'm inflexible and overweight. Maybe I should work on that first
                Thanks,
                Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                • Ryumon
                  Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1785

                  #9
                  Re: Buckwheat zafu

                  Originally posted by Kaishin

                  Though I'd like to try that large zafu just to see how it compares. Most of my discomfort when sitting, if I'm really honest with myself, from the fact that I'm inflexible and overweight. Maybe I should work on that first
                  That may be part of my problem, but also I'm tall (well, 6 feet), and I have arthritis in my knees and back, so sitting a bit higher really makes a difference. It allows my legs to be less tight, and my back to be looser as well.
                  I know nothing.

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                  • Hogen
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 261

                    #10
                    Re: Buckwheat zafu

                    I'm still lusting after a seifu as my flexibility has never been there for me. the cost is a bit prohibitive, so I've depended on overstuffing my zafu with extra buckwheat

                    http://www.dharma.net/monstore/category ... th=104_107



                    Hogen
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                    • Omoi Otoshi
                      Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 801

                      #11
                      Buckwheat zafu

                      Originally posted by Kaishin
                      Taigu has a video (somewhere on here) where he shows how he recommends that when you sit, lean forward and "wedge" the zafu at an angle underneath you to provide better support. I've been doing that with my kapok zafu ever since and it's made a big difference.
                      I agree! It makes a ton of difference. Sit only on the front half and try to wedge it so that your pelvis is tilted slightly forward. Helps with both back pain and sleepy buttocks!

                      /Pontus
                      In a spring outside time, flowers bloom on a withered tree;
                      you ride a jade elephant backwards, chasing the winged dragon-deer;
                      now as you hide far beyond innumerable peaks--
                      the white moon, a cool breeze, the dawn of a fortunate day

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                      • Kaishin
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2322

                        #12
                        Re: Buckwheat zafu

                        I found Taigu's video: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4200

                        FFWD to about 2:40 for the "angling" technique.
                        Thanks,
                        Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                        Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                        • Kaishin
                          Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2322

                          #13
                          Re: Buckwheat zafu

                          Originally posted by Dokan
                          Mine is pretty flat,
                          Is that from normal use, or did you remove some of the buckwheat?
                          Thanks,
                          Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                          Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                          • Hoyu
                            Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2020

                            #14
                            Re: Buckwheat zafu

                            Originally posted by Kaishin
                            Originally posted by Dokan
                            Mine is pretty flat,
                            Is that from normal use, or did you remove some of the buckwheat?
                            I also sit on a buckwheat Zafu so I'm going to chime in on this one.
                            Mine has flattened out from normal(well as normal as endlessly sitting on your butt in front of a blank wall can be considered :lol: ) sitting. The hulls just break down over time. Even to the point of powderizing and breaching the Zafu fabric. Kind of dusty
                            I decided my next one will be cotton to avoid this issue!

                            Gassho,
                            Hoyu(John)
                            Ho (Dharma)
                            Yu (Hot Water)

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                            • Ryumon
                              Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1785

                              #15
                              Re: Buckwheat zafu

                              Originally posted by Hoyu
                              Originally posted by Kaishin
                              Originally posted by Dokan
                              Mine is pretty flat,
                              Is that from normal use, or did you remove some of the buckwheat?
                              I also sit on a buckwheat Zafu so I'm going to chime in on this one.
                              Mine has flattened out from normal(well as normal as endlessly sitting on your butt in front of a blank wall can be considered :lol: ) sitting. The hulls just break down over time. Even to the point of powderizing and breaching the Zafu fabric. Kind of dusty
                              I decided my next one will be cotton to avoid this issue!

                              Gassho,
                              Hoyu(John)
                              But you can replace the buckwheat; it's a lot easier than replacing kapok.

                              I have used a buckwheat-filled pillow for about 15 years, and every couple of years I replace the filling. I even noticed on Amazon FR that marketplace sellers sell buckwheat to fill pillows and zafus.
                              I know nothing.

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