about the 5 precepts

[Keishin]

about the 5 precepts

Hello Louis:

I liked your 'thinking ourself into a corner'--and of course, our thinking made a 'corner' to think ourself into to begin with!!!
Or was this already the point you were making.....

and the points Jundo, Hans and Harry were making re: the tightrope walk of the precepts--I guess Ikkyu in his own inimmitable way makes a case for not breaking/not keeping/not not-keeping; and following/not following/ not not-following the precepts.....

On a completely different vein of thought: my computer's hard drive has died... so I don't have my usual access to Treeleaf for a while...even attendance at a cyber sangha requires 'showing up' in some form!!

gassho
Keishin

[will]

Hans

the precepts however are a safety line which we can attach ourselves to, in order to avoid plunging into the abyss of extremism and bad cause-effect relationships.

I hope in time one can actually see in themself what causes the bad cause-effect relationships. Otherwise where is the wisdom?



Jundo

Daido Loori Roshi has some wonderful talks on his multi-year efforts to quit a multi-pack a day cigarette habit (I think he only quit a few years ago). It is all part of the tightrope which, not by coincidence, is also an act of balance in body/mind ... and thus a very beautiful description for the Zen life.

I can relate to that.

Gassho