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  • AlanLa
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1405

    A test

    1) Where does your mind go during zazen?
    a. the past
    b. the present
    c. the future
    d. nowhere

    2) Where does your mind go when you're not doing zazen?
    a. the past
    b. the present
    c. the future
    d. nowhere

    All of the above is not an acceptable answer, not is none of the above, nor is it an essay question; you must choose only one response from above.
    Each question is worth a ciliocosm of points over endless kalpas.
    AL (Jigen) in:
    Faith/Trust
    Courage/Love
    Awareness/Action!

    I sat today
  • Kaishin
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2322

    #2
    Re: A test

    1) c
    2) c
    Thanks,
    Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
    Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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    • Hoyu
      Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2020

      #3
      Re: A test

      1) e. None of the above :twisted:
      Actually I had to answer e. because while on the Zafu my mind drifts into thoughts of made up things. Most of which haven't, nor will most likely ever happen. Nothing future, present or past just more like watching the unfolding of a fictitious story. Realizing it I then try to shut off the (mental)TV but it always ends up more like changing the channel because before I know it another show starts playing.

      2) c. Forever going through a mental checklist of things I need to do!
      Ho (Dharma)
      Yu (Hot Water)

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      • ChrisA
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 312

        #4
        Re: A test

        Sorry, Alan, but I reject your rules. Love the questions, though!

        Originally posted by AlanLa
        1) Where does your mind go during zazen?
        a. the past
        b. the present
        c. the future
        d. nowhere
        I have four baskets when I sit zazen: past, present, practice, skandha. When a thought arises, I try to be aware of what it is, welcome it by calling its name, and let it fall. Sometimes that's easy: "There you go, replaying that meeting in your head" or "Of course your foot is falling asleep again; who cares?" That sort of thing. Where it gets tricky is down the skandha range toward mental reactions and concsciousness, where "a thought" strings with other thoughts into an idea, monologue, or more.

        At times, I really do imagine baskets, btw! To the left of the altar is past; right, future; behind, practice; in front (nearest to my body), skandhas.

        2) Where does your mind go when you're not doing zazen?
        a. the past
        b. the present
        c. the future
        d. nowhere
        I don't know.
        Chris Seishi Amirault
        (ZenPedestrian)

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        • Nindo

          #5
          Re: A test

          All over. On both. :shock:

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          • Echo
            Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 26

            #6
            Re: A test

            ....Wait, if you're here, how can your mind go somewhere else?
            -Konstantin

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            • ChrisA
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 312

              #7
              Re: A test

              Beats me.

              (Get it?!)
              Chris Seishi Amirault
              (ZenPedestrian)

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              • viktor
                Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 8

                #8
                Re: A test

                It's c and c for me too
                Every morning we are born again. What we do today is what matters most.

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                • Shokai
                  Treeleaf Priest
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6391

                  #9
                  Re: A test

                  mu
                  合掌,生開
                  gassho, Shokai

                  仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                  "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                  https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                  • Kyonin
                    Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 6742

                    #10
                    Re: A test

                    f. Fantasies

                    When I sit there is a period of time when my mind seems to just drift and create fantasies of alternative pasts or possible futures. Lots of "what if..." thinking for me. Not sure why that is.

                    After maybe 5 or 10 minutes I start to settle and my mind sits still. And I love it.

                    When not sitting, my answer is d. Most of the time.
                    Hondō Kyōnin
                    奔道 協忍

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                    • Nenka
                      Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1238

                      #11
                      Re: A test

                      Go?

                      The wheel may spin, but . . .

                      :P

                      Jen

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                      • Onken
                        Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 104

                        #12
                        Re: A test

                        When I start sitting, my mind wanders in every direction possible. Running thoughts, racing thoughts, Past, present, future, all over. It takes a few minutes for those echos in my mind to settle. But they eventually do

                        Gassho,

                        Matt
                        Gassho,
                        Onken

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                        • Seiryu
                          Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 620

                          #13
                          Re: A test

                          1) D

                          2) D

                          Where can the mind go....?
                          Humbly,
                          清竜 Seiryu

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                          • AlanLa
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1405

                            #14
                            Re: A test

                            I could grade this test, tell people what the right answer is, but the thing about Buddhism is that all the tests are self-graded. To grade your own test, may I suggest you look at others' answers and see if one (or more) of them makes better sense.
                            AL (Jigen) in:
                            Faith/Trust
                            Courage/Love
                            Awareness/Action!

                            I sat today

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                            • nealc
                              Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 39

                              #15
                              Re: A test

                              Mine is all over..

                              One question I have is how much time (guessing) would you say you are "present" and how much time are you wandering? I do a 30-min sitting most mornings, and I'd guess on average I'm present for

                              1. the first 5 min,
                              2. in and out for the next 20, present about 10 min,
                              3. present again for the last 5 (I've gotten a sense of how long 30m is, I can tell when my legs are getting sore that it's time to get back on ZZ' as uchiyama says).

                              So I'd say about 40-60%... but it varies alot

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