BOOK RECOMMENDATION: Realizing Genjokoan (Shohaku Okamura)

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  • adrianbkelly
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 214

    #16
    I am in the middle of re-reading "Realising Genjokoan"; it has done more than any other book to clarify for me what our practice is all about. I can't recommend it highly enough!

    _/\_
    Ade

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    • Oheso
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 294

      #17
      I just started my second reading through this excellent book. digesting slowly. I recently found "modern interpretations" of several of the fascicles, including Genjokoan, by Michael Luetchford of Dogen Sangha UK, http://www.dogensangha.org.uk, which I feel helped clarify them to my understanding but can't vouch for their fidelity to Dogen's thought . is anyone else familiar with these "interpretations", or have an opinion of them? thanks. -O
      and neither are they otherwise.

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40772

        #18
        Hi Oheso,

        Michael Leutchford is my Dharma Brother, another 'Dharma Heir' of Nishijima Roshi, and Taigu's Dharma Uncle!

        Michael's translation is a modern language rendering, and very impressionistic, filled with some particular ways of expressing some things that Nishijima Roshi favored (such as his use of terms like subject, object, beyond subject-object and reality). I would not call it a literal translation, although it is powerful and wonderful itself. Taigu, any impressions?



        It is interesting to read it in comparison of some of the several other translations out their. The Nishijima-Cross translation is prized for precise, detailed accuracy to the original by Dogen, while the Tanahashi version is often described as the most readable while capturing the poetic aspects of Dogen's writing, although sometimes needing to take some liberties (Nishijima-Cross is so precise that it is sometimes not the most beautiful to read).



        Other translations are considered hit and miss, with much miss, according to some Dogen scholars I have spoken with over the years.

        Gassho, Jundo
        Last edited by Jundo; 02-09-2013, 06:15 PM.
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Oheso
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 294

          #19
          doumo arigatou gozaimasu, Roshi.

          gassho, -O.
          Last edited by Oheso; 02-09-2013, 05:09 PM.
          and neither are they otherwise.

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          • Ed
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 223

            #20
            I also give you Okamura-roshi last book LIVING BY BOW. Like REALIZING GENJOKOAN it shows his lovingkindness and scholarship in a very readable narrative.
            He explains the verses of both meals and okesa, their origins and meanings. The section on orioky and food sustenance is a lesson in humility. We indeed are sustained by each other and food is magical, a gift to be deeply appreciated.
            Shohaku Okamura was disciple of Uchiyama-roshi. The plum did not fall far from the three.
            I am at the section on the HEART SUTRA, it has me feeling grateful to have found this path.
            Between the Gene Reeves LOTUS SUTRA and STORIES, and rohi's works I am complete for a long time book wise.
            In gassho,
            "Know that the practice of zazen is the complete path of buddha-dharma and nothing can be compared to it....it is not the practice of one or two buddhas but all the buddha ancestors practice this way."
            Dogen zenji in Bendowa





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            • Jakudo
              Member
              • May 2009
              • 251

              #21
              OK, I have downloaded Realizing Genjokoan on my reader and will give it a go, with a 5 Buddha rating how can one go wrong? Thanks for the recommendation.
              Gassho, Jakudo Hinton.
              Gassho, Shawn Jakudo Hinton
              It all begins when we say, “I”. Everything that follows is illusion.
              "Even to speak the word Buddha is dragging in the mud soaking wet; Even to say the word Zen is a total embarrassment."
              寂道

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 40772

                #22
                Another book I will recommend sight unseen based on the folks involved (although I have it on order) ...

                Receiving the Marrow: Teachings on Dogen by Soto Zen Women Priests

                Receiving the Marrow is the first book that expresses Dogen's teaching as experienced and lived by Western Soto Zen women teachers. Dogen Zenji(1200-1253) supported equality and respect for women Zen teachers from a Buddhist perspective.He did so through his understanding of the equality of Buddha nature shared by all beings. Historically, Japanese Soto Zen women have referred to Dogen's teachings as a touchstone for finding their place and empowerment within the Soto Zen tradition that he founded. Now Western women are sharing their appreciation of Dogen and enjoying the same broad and brilliant support that he offered for all practitioners.Receiving the Marrow's essays on Dogen are enjoyable,elucidating, accessible and a wonderful new presentation on chapters from Dogen's Shobogenzo. Each woman relates personally and authentically to Dogen's teaching.

                Dogen's great spiritual teachings are the foundation of Soto Zen. For the first time, contemporary American women Zen masters in the Soto tradition, join together to reach within Dogen's mind to make his masterpieces accessible and practical for those seeking deeper realization and understanding.


                Gassho, J
                Last edited by Jundo; 02-11-2013, 02:39 AM.
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Mp

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jundo
                  Another book I will recommend sight unseen based on the folks involved (although I have it on order) ...

                  Receiving the Marrow: Teachings on Dogen by Soto Zen Women Priests

                  Receiving the Marrow is the first book that expresses Dogen's teaching as experienced and lived by Western Soto Zen women teachers. Dogen Zenji(1200-1253) supported equality and respect for women Zen teachers from a Buddhist perspective.He did so through his understanding of the equality of Buddha nature shared by all beings. Historically, Japanese Soto Zen women have referred to Dogen's teachings as a touchstone for finding their place and empowerment within the Soto Zen tradition that he founded. Now Western women are sharing their appreciation of Dogen and enjoying the same broad and brolliant support that he offered for all practitioners.Receiving the Marrow's essays on Dogen are enjoyable,elucidating, accessible and a wonderful new presentation on chapters from Dogen's Shobogenzo. Each woman relates personally and authentically to Dogen's teaching.

                  Dogen's great spiritual teachings are the foundation of Soto Zen. For the first time, contemporary American women Zen masters in the Soto tradition, join together to reach within Dogen's mind to make his masterpieces accessible and practical for those seeking deeper realization and understanding.


                  Gassho, J
                  Thank you Jundo, I will have a look at this one.

                  Gassho
                  Shingen

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 40772

                    #24
                    A review in Tricycle by Prof. Steven Heine ...

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                    A Bow to Women’s Wisdom
                    Receiving the Marrow
                    Teachings on Dogen by Soto Zen Women Priests
                    Edited by Eido Frances Carney
                    Temple Ground Press, 2012
                    $18; 266 pages


                    Nearly eight hundred years ago, the celebrated Japanese Zen master Dogen gave
                    a remarkable sermon revealing his egalitarian attitude toward women, an
                    attitude reflected in both his teachings and writings. With the publication of
                    Receiving the Marrow, a collection of essays edited by Eido Frances Carney, eleven
                    accomplished Zen women priests share their understanding of Dogen’s teachings,
                    as well as their appreciation.

                    In her introduction, Carney, the founding abbess and teacher at the Olympia Zen
                    Center in Washington, lauds Soto Zen’s “egalitarian founder” for setting “the stage
                    for women to come forward and stand as equals in a clerical world that had rejected
                    them as full members of the institution.” Indeed, from his first monastery in Kyoto
                    to his years at Eiheiji temple in the remote mountains, evidence suggests Dogen
                    supported both nuns and female lay practitioners. This favorable attitude toward
                    women is most evident in Dogen’s sermon
                    Raihaitokuzui (Receiving the Marrow
                    and Bowing), from which this new
                    book takes its title.

                    In the sermon, Dogen suggests that if
                    a monk recognizes an awakened female
                    teacher and bows to her in homage, he
                    demonstrates his “excellence as a student.”
                    Here Dogen also recalls how two
                    Chinese nuns, Moshan and Miaoxin,
                    otherwise little known in Zen lore,
                    taught a number of male monastics and
                    outsmarted them in Zen dialogues.

                    What caused Dogen to take such a
                    bold stance in medieval Japan, a time
                    when the role of women was suppressed
                    both inside and outside Buddhist temples?
                    One rationale suggests he had
                    observed a more open-minded approach
                    toward women in mainland China and
                    wished to foster the same in his own
                    movement. Another possibility is that
                    like other teachers in the new wave of
                    Japanese Buddhist schools (including
                    Nichiren, Shinran, and Eizon), Dogen
                    wanted to appeal to a wider audience.
                    A third explanation holds that Dogen,
                    who had renounced his aristocratic
                    background to pursue the dharma,
                    remained committed to the doctrine of
                    nonduality in all of its manifestations.
                    This included supporting gender equality
                    and resisting any tendency to demean
                    or marginalize any demographic group.

                    In Receiving the Marrow, the female
                    contributors interpret the Shobogenzo
                    (Treasury of the True Dharma-Eye),
                    Dogen’s main body of writing, which
                    consists of sermons delivered during the
                    peak his career, including Raihaitokuzui.
                    The contributors, all priests from various
                    Soto Zen lineages, were born and
                    trained in the West, although several
                    also practiced for a time in Japan. The
                    lineages they represent include those of
                    prominent Japanese masters who taught
                    in America, such as Shunryu Suzuki,
                    Dainin Katagiri, Taizen Maezumi, and
                    Shohaku Okumura, as well as those of
                    their American students, including Mel
                    Weitsman and Bernie Glassman.

                    Each contributor selects one fascicle
                    and analyzes its key passages both in
                    terms of its dharmic significance and
                    looking at how it can be understood
                    in today’s world. They worked with a
                    variety of Dogen translations, including
                    those by Carl Bielefeldt, Hee-Jin Kim,
                    Herbert Nearman, and Kazuaki Tanahashi.
                    Rather than making for inconsistency,
                    the various translations show
                    how widely Dogen’s writings have been
                    disseminated in the past few decades
                    and also reveal the growing contribution
                    of women translators and commentators.
                    One, Shotai de la Rosa, is currently
                    translating into Spanish another crucial
                    Dogen text, the Eihei Koroku (Extensive
                    Record).

                    The essays are not strictly about
                    women; rather, they are by women.
                    As Carney observes, the collection is
                    not “a feminist treatise”; yet the book
                    does, indeed, tell the story of female
                    Soto priests, who, by following Dogen’s
                    teachings, find their rightful place in the
                    community of Buddhist teachers.

                    Aside from the introduction, only two
                    essays directly address the role of women
                    in Dogen’s teachings, one by Grace
                    Schireson on Rahaitokuzui and another
                    by Shosan Austin on the fascicle Shinjingakudo
                    (Body and Mind Study the Way).
                    Schireson looks at how Dogen asserted
                    the authenticity of female practitioners
                    and championed the ultimate equality of
                    male and female perspectives and understanding
                    of the dharma. Austin, on the
                    other hand, highlights the differences
                    between male and female counterparts:

                    Many of the traditional meditation
                    instructions on posture work well
                    in general for male bodies, but not
                    for female bodies. The 51 percent
                    of people whose pelvis and spine
                    are shaped one way thus receive
                    instructions for the 49 percent
                    whose pelvis and spine are shaped
                    another way. Women’s bodies are
                    not usually mirrored by the traditional
                    teachings.


                    Equality does not mean sameness,
                    she suggests; men and women may
                    need to be treated differently when it
                    comes to sitting practice, even if the
                    experience of awakening knows no such
                    differences.

                    Most of the essays in this volume
                    seek to capture and convey the distinctive
                    flavor of Dogen’s incessant wordplay,
                    full of psychological irony and
                    metaphysical contradiction. As Jan
                    Chozen Bays suggests, “Dogen Zenji is
                    at home in this world of apparent opposites.
                    He is a mountain goat at play in
                    the mountain range of paradox, happily
                    leaping from peak to peak, jumping
                    across huge chasms of apparent
                    contradictions.” Here, women authors
                    interpret Dogen’s puzzling yet thoughtprovoking
                    words, as men have before
                    them, by examining the master’s words
                    carefully yet creatively. This interpretive
                    process follows Dogen’s rhetorical
                    twists and turns, phrase by phrase,
                    showing how and why passages make
                    sense or perhaps can be considered
                    nonsensical. Like the Zen koans Dogen
                    frequently discusses, his writings in
                    Shobogenzo transcend ordinary logic
                    and patterns of speech in pursuit of a
                    higher truth.

                    According to Soto tradition, one must
                    spend at least two decades of dedicated
                    study in order to master the Shobogenzo
                    teachings and be able to confidently say
                    something original about their meaning.
                    As Carney points out, “Since many of
                    our Soto Zen women priests received
                    dharma transmission in the early 1990s,
                    [women] have only recently come into
                    [their] own as teachers.” This volume
                    serves the powerful purpose of enabling
                    female priests to present their own
                    interpretations of Dogen, having now
                    reached the point where they and other
                    women commentators can contribute
                    significantly to making Dogen more
                    comprehensible to the West.

                    Several of the essays, including Teijo
                    Munnich’s analysis of the fascicle Bendowa
                    (Discourse about How to Practice
                    the Way), combine careful readings of
                    the text with particularly insightful
                    interpretations. The Bendowa is the
                    opening section of one of the two main
                    versions of the Shobogenzo (the 95-fascicle
                    version as opposed to the 75-fascicle
                    one). It deals with the doctrine
                    of jijuyu zanmai (the samadhi of selfenjoyment).
                    Munnich introduces the
                    image of a dancer to illustrate this idea;
                    she talks about the majestic feeling of
                    the dharma dancing through the practitioner.
                    In another noteworthy essay,
                    Seisen Saunders considers the ethical
                    ramifications of Shoaku Makusa (Not
                    Doing Evils) by examining the deceptively
                    simple behavior of a five-year-old
                    child at a local playground. She talks
                    about how the child makes “friendship
                    moves” rather than “friendship
                    blocks.”

                    In another effective essay, Shinshu
                    Roberts explicates the notion of hereand-
                    now reality expressed in the Uji
                    (Being/Time) fascicle. Dogen points out
                    that one cannot ever think that the mistakes
                    of the past are left behind as we
                    charge toward the future. Because of
                    the unity of past, present, and future,
                    according to Dogen there is no sense of
                    arriving at an illusory endpoint. Rather,
                    there is only an ongoing process of
                    self-cultivation.

                    Finally, Chozen Bays makes good
                    sense of some of the thorniest writing
                    in Dogen’s world of contradictions. In
                    an essay about the udambara flower, the
                    legendary blossom symbolizing the Buddha’s
                    enlightenment, Bays examines the
                    plant species in both ancient and modern
                    times. Her essay is based on the
                    Udonge fascicle.

                    Despite Dogen’s egalitarian teachings,
                    it remains a matter of historical
                    debate whether monks in ancient China
                    or Japan would have ever bowed to
                    their female counterparts to receive the
                    marrow. However, the essays included
                    in this volume demonstrate that whatever
                    the truth of history, it is high time the men do.

                    --

                    Steven Heine is a professor of religion
                    and the director of Asian studies at
                    Florida International University. He
                    is the editor of Dogen: Textual and
                    Historical Studies and the author of the
                    forthcoming book Like Cats and Dogs:
                    Contesting the Mu Koan in Zen Buddhism,
                    both from Oxford University Press
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • Shokai
                      Dharma Transmitted Priest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 6422

                      #25
                      DOGEN'S GENJOKOAN: THREE COMMENTARIES is magnificent.
                      If this book is ordered from Sanshin
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                      You get a Signed Copy !! ta♫ da♪
                      (Thank you Myoku)
                      合掌,生開
                      gassho, Shokai

                      仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                      "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                      https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                      • Sydney
                        Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 120

                        #26
                        Originally posted by adrianbkelly
                        I am in the middle of re-reading "Realising Genjokoan"; it has done more than any other book to clarify for me what our practice is all about. I can't recommend it highly enough!

                        _/\_
                        Ade
                        I'm reading it for the first time, and find it very engaging.
                        Diligently attain nothing. Sort of. Best not to over-think it.
                        http://www.janxter.com/

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                        • Ed
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 223

                          #27
                          LIVING BY VOW although seemingly covering other subjects, and it does, is an underlying of the Genjokoan fascicle. What isn't, really?
                          I do recommend LIVING just as strongly.
                          Roshi has found a writing voice which is a perfect vehicle for his profound understanding, and he loves to communicate it.
                          "Know that the practice of zazen is the complete path of buddha-dharma and nothing can be compared to it....it is not the practice of one or two buddhas but all the buddha ancestors practice this way."
                          Dogen zenji in Bendowa





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