Treeleaf Service Project: Web of Interconnection

[Sloppy_Zen]

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There are some of us who may need to start "small". There are many individuals that we run into on a daily basis who are, in effect, socially isolated, yet invisible. Invisible in the sense that they are often overlooked - appear to be in the current of social activity, yet are in essence the walking lonely. Don't misunderstand - I'm not trying to take away from Stephanie's very excellent ideas, I'm simply suggesting that it's not just the physically isolated who could use connection.

In the small town where I reside, we have a very high incidence of schizoid, bipolar, and depressed individuals - all of whom on the surface appear to interact "normally" (whatever the hell that means). So what I'm suggesting is that for some of us, simply inviting friendliness and conversation may be a start.

Perhaps I've misunderstood what is being put forward, but I'm only throwing ideas out there so we can all focus on the project at hand.

-Jim

[lorax]

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Hi Stephanie

What a great addition to the practice of our geographicaly far flung sangha. While the initial response to your post may seem a little on the weak side, I am sure there are a lot of us that are excited about the idea, and are chewing on possibilities.

Seems a lot of the current social and political issues are adding segments of societies to the list of the marginalized. I am sure we will come up with not only a unique but vitally needed effort.

Will be in touch.

Jim

[Stephanie]

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A lot of great ideas, keep them coming.

The first step in this project is generating a lot of ideas, then we can sort through them and apply the ones that will work the best, and come up with a specific mission and clear parameters of how to carry it out.

I agree with Jundo that we will need to be careful. I've seen all too well how idealistic fervor can blind people to nuances that challenge the idealistic view they are holding. Not every person who is alone wants company; not every isolated person is going to want to participate, even if they are lonely; not everyone who participates is going to respond well to it. We must be clear about our purpose and define a purpose that fits within what we are capable of properly doing, and not overstep that by trying to become counselors, health consultants, or motivational speakers.

I think that maintaining an open and receptive attitude and approach will work the best. Listening is healing and empowering to the person who is being listened to, and is something of which we are all capable. Our capacity to truly, deeply listen is something enhanced by practice, which therefore makes this an appropriate task for us as a group. We can certainly benefit from connecting with formal Active Listening practitioners, maybe do a workshop or even just have someone do a video talk for us on the subject.

My life is awhirl with change at the moment so I probably will not be able to give this project full attention over the next month, but that works out just as well, as I think spending a month just brainstorming and working things out through dialogue and discussion will give us a rich idea and knowledge base.

Thanks for all the interest and enthusiasm. Gassho

[Hogo]

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Copy and pasting here from Stepanies 90 year old blogger post, an idea I had about helping people who are not able connect with others via technology.

Very cool story, thanks for sharing.
Reminded me of an Idea I was gonna post for you on your "web of interconnection post" I will share here quickly:
My mom is 80 years old, and lives far away from me and my family. A while back we thought how cool it would be to get her on the internet and be able to do things such a skype calls especially so she can see my daughter Emma....problem is both she can not afford internet for that much use, and there is NO WAY she could figure out a computer, I am not saying that just because of her age, as this post shows age is not an obstacle, but she just does not get technology and little buttons and keys.....It took grreat effort to show her how to use a TV remote

Not sure how needed it would be, but I did wonder how many elderly are far from family, and could benefit from someone with a laptop helping them to get in touch with family and friends, A VERY raw Idea I know, but who knows....bedside Skpe service??? Could be neat. Just tossing it into the pile for now I will think on it more.

Gassho ~ Dave.

[Stephanie]

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Once again, not a bad idea, but a different project from the one proposed here.

No project works if the idea behind it is too diffuse. Prison outreach, connecting elderly people with family members, and so on, are somewhat related to the goal/purpose of the project, but branch off from it in distinct ways.

The goal here is not to come up with as many ideas for different projects as possible, but to find a way to get this one project off the ground.

The main idea behind the project is to use the Internet and face-to-face contact to connect Treeleaf members with people who are isolated and want to share their stories with others. This allows us to both serve a genuine human need and to engage in a practice of mindful, active listening as a complement to the other forms of practice we utilize at Treeleaf.

I will make an effort to write up a basic framework and mission statement this weekend. I think setting a clear outline and basic structure for the project will help focus the brainstorming and idea refinement in this thread.

[Adam]

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This is a great idea, Stephanie! I'm game! I'll try and think of some ideas...

Gassho,

Adam

[Jundo]

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No project works if the idea behind it is too diffuse. Prison outreach, connecting elderly people with family members, and so on, are somewhat related to the goal/purpose of the project, but branch off from it in distinct ways.

The goal here is not to come up with as many ideas for different projects as possible, but to find a way to get this one project off the ground.

But some creative and "do-non-doable" ideas too ... and we might add some of those later.

Gassho, Jundo

[chicanobudista]

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I will make an effort to write up a basic framework and mission statement this weekend. I think setting a clear outline and basic structure for the project will help focus the brainstorming and idea refinement in this thread.

Cool. Looking forward to it.

[lorax]

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On July 19, Stephanie wrote the following in another thread regarding the depressing environments she must for the time being exist in.

“Jersey City is so wretched that the full force of hungry gentrification can't tame it”

The next day I was standing in the back yard in “far west Texas: watching the evening approach. The sky to the east was slate grey with the approaching storm; tinged with orange from the setting sun. Lightning and the soft rumble of thunder provided a crescendo to the soft notes of the wind chime. The vultures were settling in for the night in the old Cyprus tree.

This brings me to my thoughts on Treeleaf sangha’s “service project”... While we share so much on a personal level, how extremely different we are in the environments we each live in, and how those environments shape our view on life.

In an environment such as Stephanie describes in Jersey City, the cry of suffering is deafening, nearly drowning out feelings of compassion by a need to have it just STOP. On the other hand, living in a rural town of 2,000 surrounded by high desert and grasslands, peace is easy to find if one simply takes time to pause.

Take this thought and apply it to all the diverse physical, cultural and ethnic environments the members of Treeleaf sangha exist in, it will be a challenge to find a common need or approach to companionate action by the sangha.

One other thought is about just who are we doing this for? I see a great value in sharing a common effort by the sangha, primarily to pull us together from our far flung places of existence. I am not comfortable with the effort if it is to publicise the “works” of Treeleaf or of Buddhist community. There should be no other motivation other than our acts of compassion are simply a personal and vital part of our practice. The compassion we share with those that are suffering given individually or anomalously will be more appreciated and effective that if it appears to come from some esoteric organization called “treeleaf” or “a Buddhist group”.

So waiting to see the work outline from Stephanie so we can more forward. It is exciting, but also a great challenge…

Jim

[Jundo]

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One other thought is about just who are we doing this for? I see a great value in sharing a common effort by the sangha, primarily to pull us together from our far flung places of existence. I am not comfortable with the effort if it is to publicise the “works” of Treeleaf or of Buddhist community. There should be no other motivation other than our acts of compassion are simply a personal and vital part of our practice. The compassion we share with those that are suffering given individually or anomalously will be more appreciated and effective that if it appears to come from some esoteric organization called “treeleaf” or “a Buddhist group”.

Hey Jim,

This is a fine line, and must be tread with care.

Certainly, we should be doing such things primarily to help others, and not for our own glory or enjoyment or self gratification. The more of the former, the less of the latter ... the better for Practice, I feel.

As to publicity ... this is a hard call too. We certainly are not trying to glorify our work or efforts. Neither do we try to proselytize or convert anyone or chase them into this place (Zen folks should not, I feel, be big proselytizers). However, if we do not do some light efforts to make the Sangha known ... then some who might benefit from it would know about it! Everyone who is sitting here heard about it because of our activities. So, it is a fine line about how to get people's attention without trying to get any glory.

I see no harm in undertaking such a project for many reasons, for example, helping others while at the same time further getting Sangha members to work together and unite a bit through cooperating on the project.

Gassho, J

[Ankai]

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I see no harm in undertaking such a project for many reasons, for example, helping others while at the same time further getting Sangha members to work together and unite a bit through cooperating on the project.


Not only would I say "no harm," I see the potential to benefit others. (Assuming that for this comversation we muct use such figures of speech as harm and benefit.) Regarding what you said about advertizing... I remember seeing a magazine add that led me to this site in the first place way back when. It wasn't self aggrandizing or glorifying, it simply let it be known that the site exists, and it has been an improvement in my life. No reason we can't similarly let people know about something we might have to offer without strutting and crowing about it. Everyone knows tho Mother Teresa was, and what she did... I don't think anyone would say she was boastful in any way. Same could be said for Thich Nhat Hahn. No reason we can't follow similar examples.

[Stephanie]

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I have bolded the most relevant parts of this post.

To clarify, set up a basic outline, and set parameters for brainstorming:

This project was set up to serve two purposes:
1. To use the energy and "human capital" of Treeleaf to serve a social need
2. To create a "samu" project for Treeleafers involving hands-on, face-to-face work.

When Jundo asked me for my input as a social worker on what kind of project we could do at Treeleaf, I immediately thought of a third aspect:

3. To create a project that would take advantage of the unique strengths of the Treeleaf community, i.e. one that could integrate both Internet and "on the ground" service.

Jundo made it clear he did not want the project to be passive, such as collecting money, and that this should provide an engaged practice opportunity for Treeleafers.

I think that using both Internet technology and in-person interaction to connect with people who are isolated fulfills the above.

So to sum it up in a single mission statement: The Treeleaf Web of Interconnection Project is a service project by members of the Treeleaf community using both in-person contact and Internet technology to provide face-to-face contact with homebound or otherwise isolated individuals seeking to share their lives and stories with others.

(This mission statement is up for revision, I just wanted to at least get a "rough draft" out there.)

I have a general mental picture of how this might work, but have many questions about how to make this project effective. I would appreciate brainstorming on these questions. Jundo wanted my input for a general idea for this project but this is our project, not mine.

I think there have been many great ideas in this thread but many differ too much from this project not to end up becoming other projects altogether, which, if we did them, would take away from the community integration that would fuel a Treeleaf service project. Now, I think a lot of the ideas that have been generated are closely related to this project; what I think would be great is if, once this project was established with a strong "trunk," some of these other projects could start "branching" off of it.

And, of course, we may find that this particular project is not feasible, which would mean coming up with another project that would fulfill #1 and #2, and, I would hope, #3. So if anyone has any objections to this particular project, please share them; there might be flaws in the idea and/or the ability to execute it that should be examined. But for those who think this is a good project for Treeleaf, I would love to read some of your responses to the following questions I have:

1. Should our target population of those we aim to serve be broad, such as all homebound individuals, or should it be narrowed even further, to a particular population, such as homebound elders or homebound people suffering from disabilities? I suggest "homebound" instead of "socially isolated" because I fear that would be so broad as to make the project dilute and/or confusing.

2. How do we address the issue of isolation gracefully, without pitying those to whom we outreach or making them feel pitied? In other words, how can this project be used to empower those we serve? It is in response to this question that I thought of incorporating Active Listening and possibly following the StoryCorps model, but am open to other ideas and strategies also.

3. How do we successfully engage in outreach and make this project appealing to those who might be served by it? I liked the idea of distributing flyers via Meals on Wheels, which is one approach of many I hope we can come up with. We must be wary of privacy and confidentiality when considering outreach approaches.

4. For those who would seek to go out into their communities on an "in person" basis, how should we present ourselves and explain our organization? Should we perhaps involve other local community members, and possibly other Buddhist sanghas, for additional support and "local viability"?

5. How do we incorporate technology and the Internet into this project? Obviously we could use Skype, IM programs, and other software that allows voice and/or video capabilities. I think to successfully address #2, we should avoid text-only approaches (though I am open to feedback on this also). I think the difficulties and resistances we face in ourselves in connecting intimately with strangers will be valuable for the "samu" and "hands-on" aspects of this project. It is too easy to maintain detachment when there is not the immediacy of another voice, a pause of awkwardness in the conversation, a look in the eyes or body language.

And that brings me to the question raised above of not wanting this project to be self-serving. My thought is that a mutually beneficial project is the only kind of project that can empower. It is not a "sin" for the community and its members to benefit from this project as well. If we see this as a practice, I think it adds a humility to it that prevents any sort of "holier-than-thou" or condescending relationships between us and those we aim to serve. As for advertising--we will need to find ways to outreach and successfully connect with our target population, but I certainly think any sort of proselytizing would be inappropriate. If people are curious about Treeleaf, and Zen, by all means we can answer questions; and for purposes of honesty and full-disclosure, any outreach materials should name and briefly describe "who we are," but no more is necessary.

And finally, I break my own suggestion :wink: by wondering about a possible companion project (most likely to be integrated later, at that time as I described above when the project is strong enough to branch out) to teach others how to use the Internet and related technologies. This would most likely focus mostly on elders who did not "grow up" with the Internet. This would be very empowering; heck, it might even be a better project than the first. It would fulfill the suggestion by a poster in the above thread of finding a way to connect isolated people with their families. This project would of necessity need to happen in person. Which would again require addressing #4.

I really believe the Internet stands to make a lot of things better for a lot of people, and facilitating human contact for those who would otherwise have a difficult time coming by it is one of them. I think as the "first Internet Sangha" we should by all means incorporate this technology and its possibilities into our commitment as bodhisattvas to serve others.

I look forward to reading more thoughts, concerns, and questions, and hopefully some responses to questions #1-5 above!

[mydnight]

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One way to address issue # 5 to "incorporate technology" would be to just make a website with a searchable database of people's stories (suitably anonymized, of course) -- preferably both original recordings and transcripts of the stories.

Gassho,

[Jundo]

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One way to address issue # 5 to "incorporate technology" would be to just make a website with a searchable database of people's stories (suitably anonymized, of course) -- preferably both original recordings and transcripts of the stories.

Gassho,

Hi,

Some confidentiality issues there which would require great care. As you say, they would have to be suitably anonymized, have written consent, etc.

In the mission statement:

seeking to share their lives and stories with others.

could be just listening to their stories instead of publishing them.

Oh, and I very much like the simultaneously "teaching people to use the internet" idea ... which would seem to be a good way to reach elders etc. who are truly isolated and open a new world to them, and reach isolated folks via the internet (because if they already have the internet, perhaps they are not so isolated as far as having folks to communicate with via internet now) ... stunning (we do not kill) two birds with one stone. I taught my mother to use the internet many years ago when she was bed ridden, and it did open a new world for her.

Gassho, Jundo

[ghop]

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I taught my mother to use the internet many years ago when she was bed ridden, and it did open a new world for her.

I dunno why exactly

maybe it's my father's cancer

or the granddaughter that won't speak to him

or just this crazy world

of samsara

but this touches that part of me

that I keep hidden

from the world

gassho jundo

Greg