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  • Ryumon
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 1787

    Sisyphus and zen

    As a long-time appreciator of Albert Camus' writings, I found this article on Tricycle quite interesting:

    What Albert Camus and the absurdists can teach us about our wandering minds


    Gassho,

    Ryūmon (Kirk)

    Sat Lah
    I know nothing.
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40188

    #2
    Sisyphus was a guest here in 2010 ...

    We are Sisyphus.

    Some folks think the point of this practice is to get to a place where we can put the stone down for good (perhaps by realizing that the stone is just a dream). Perhaps we might see Sisyphus's (?) pushing that boulder (of ignorance and delusion) as his practice, his striving, to finally be free of the boulder of delusion by reaching (attaining) that place where the boulder will rest at the top of the mountain permanently, his practice accomplished, Sisyphus free once and for all of the burden of delusion and need to practice.

    (or if trying to fix the world ... to get to that place where all of the world's problems are solved once and for all, and Planet Earth becomes Candyland or the Garden of Eden)

    It may be so for Perfect Buddha. However, so long as Sisyphus is a human being, we know that Sisyphus will likely never reach that stopping place ... perhaps not for countless lives, if ever ... The "Promised Pure Lotus Land" is very far away. I mean ... when we are dead, then we can put the rock down!

    What is more, if Sis' gives up his efforts to push the boulder of ignorance up that hill (practice), he will be quickly crushed by ignorance and delusions which will roll over him ... so he cannot and must not stop practicing.

    (and in trying to fix the world ... if we completely surrender and quit trying, this world will be a much worse place.)

    What is Sisyphus to do? Or not do? A Koany dilemma!


    https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...?7902-Sisyphus
    Gassho, J

    stlah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Koushi
      Treeleaf Unsui / Engineer
      • Apr 2015
      • 1313

      #3
      One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
      Indeed. Thanks for the early morning read.

      Gassho,
      Koushi
      ST
      理道弘志 | Ridō Koushi

      Please take this novice priest-in-training's words with a grain of salt.

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      • Alina
        Member
        • Jul 2023
        • 181

        #4
        It's a nice, comforting thought, to think that Sisyphus found an invincible summer in himself (https://images.app.goo.gl/dd9pMPT6h6JpjN1R8).

        Thank you for sharing the article.

        Gassho [emoji120]
        Alina

        ST+LAH

        Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

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        • Shinshi
          Treeleaf Unsui
          • Jul 2010
          • 3637

          #5
          Fascinating read, thank you for sharing Ryūmon.

          Gassho, Shinshi

          SaT-LaH
          空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
          There are those who, attracted by grass, flowers, mountains, and waters, flow into the Buddha way.
          -Dogen
          E84I - JAJ

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          • Onkai
            Treeleaf Unsui
            • Aug 2015
            • 3003

            #6
            Thank you everyone for this thread.

            Gassho, Onkai
            Sat lah
            美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
            恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

            I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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            • RobO
              Member
              • Jul 2023
              • 47

              #7
              Thank you. The parallels seem clear now they are pointed out.

              Gassho 🙏
              Rob
              Stlah

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              • Kokuu
                Treeleaf Priest
                • Nov 2012
                • 6839

                #8
                Thank you, Ryūmon. I really like it as a metaphor for life that instead of symbolising hopelessness, can be given another meaning to the actions of each moment.

                I remember reading another teacher talking about Sisyphus in this way, I think it was Pema Chodron.

                Also, here: https://www.lionsroar.com/sisyphus-the-bodhisattva/

                Gassho
                Kokuu
                -sattoday/lah-

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                • Washin
                  Treeleaf Unsui
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 3786

                  #9
                  Lovely article. Thank you for sharing.

                  Gassho
                  Washin
                  Stlah

                  Sent from my SM-A325F using Tapatalk
                  Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                  Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                  ----
                  I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                  and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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