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  • Huichan
    Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 231

    Practicing in a temple

    I've been reading some Master Jing Hui (a Chan master who helped revive Chan practice in China) and came across this. Just wondering what others thought of it? I've never meditated in a temple, so couldn't comment on that but do feel some sort of 'energy' when visiting some temples (definitely not all though). This could well be just a perception based on how I think temples are supposed to make me feel. If there is some kind of 'energy', I'm guessing this would be true of any space where people practice Buddhism as well not just temples? Can this also be found in a virtual space like our own Sangha?

    Another lay Buddhist said that, when he practices sitting meditation, it is easier to make him peaceful in a temple, but difficult at home because of the change of environment. “Temple” in Chinese is also called “Bodhimandala”, a word somewhat coincidentally similar to the present scientific term, the field of Dharma. Nowadays, there is a term “the magnetic field”, isn’t there? That is, the field of magnetism. This temple, a place where people come with a compassionate Mind, a Mind that seeks for the ultimate truth, and a place where such consciousness is likely to be concentrated, is a field of Dharma. What is consciousness? It is called Avijnapti-rupa, the “non-revealing”. Consciousness is a kind of invisible energy in the sphere of Rupadharma (the phenomenal world). It is this same consciousness that animates our faith and resolution to keep the precepts. It is also a non-revealing energy. If one truly has such faith and resolution, he will then hold on to it, never departing from the precepts because he is always charged by a powerful will. The Temple, or Bodhimandala, we say, is the field of the Dharma where the Sangha and practitioners carry on self-training, become enlightened, and affirm the truth. Among temples, the Yufo (Jade Buddha) temple – built some one hundred and twenty years ago, is perhaps the most recent. But if a man were to live that length of time, it would be quite something. Suppose a temple was one thousand two hundred years old, the power of its field would be enormous. Suppose more and more practitioners came to practice at the Yufo temple, though not as old, the power of the field in the temple would definitely increase and strengthen. At the time of Shakyamuni, the Astanga Samanvagatopavasa (the eightfold precept observed by lay Buddhists) was made. On fixed days lay Buddhists should come to the temple. Why? On the one hand, staying in a temple for the period of one day and one night a person can experience what temple life is really like; on the other, he will find himself serene and peaceful, open and free, fearless and without anxiety. By practicing in a temple for one day, therefore, it is possible to get much more done than one would practicing at home for a whole year
    Last edited by Huichan; 09-25-2022, 05:26 AM.
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  • Bion
    Senior Priest-in-Training
    • Aug 2020
    • 4827

    #2
    I will just tell you a story about us, here at Treeleaf. Sometimes around last year or the year before that, can’t remember, we had a zazenkai and some of us had the lovely habit of checking in with each other afterwards, as soon as the cameras were off. It felt to me like it was an exhausting zazenkai, for whatever reason the sits felt longer, and I was feeling a bit off. So, talking to others, it appeared that somehow, many had the same experience or feeling. Even Jundo, who you know how good is at public speaking, was having difficulties with the talk, was a bit stumbling over words and was not his usual vigorous self. It was a fascinating thing to realize that though separated by continents and without being able to really see each other, since we spent most of the zazenkai facing a wall, we all seemed to have a common experience. Is that “energy”? Probably, though I wouldn’t use that in the new-agey sense. But there was a palpable something that flowed through all of us. And that was not the only case like that throughout the years.
    I truly believe our digital sangha experiences the same, if not more, as an in-person one, and that includes that “energy”.

    Sorry for running very long.

    [emoji1374] Sat Today
    "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40772

      #3
      I believe that such feeling is primarily a matter of the heart, and if one feels that a certain place is sacred ... then that place is sacred.

      Our theme at Treeleaf is "All of Life is our Temple," so all of life is sacred and has this "energy" when we feel so. Right where you are now is a temple.

      However, Ross, as someone living in China, you simply MUST take advantage of the cultural experience of sitting in some temples! (I lived in China back in '86). There is no excuse not to do so now. Fujian is very close to Ningbo (宁波) in Zhejiang, where Dogen's boat landed, and many famous Chan/Zen temples around there.



      The 6th Ancestor and other famous temples, open to visits, are in northern Guangzhou. Tientong Monastery is up in Ningbo.

      Gassho, Jundo
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Huichan
        Member
        • Jan 2022
        • 231

        #4
        Originally posted by Jundo
        I believe that such feeling is primarily a matter of the heart, and if one feels that a certain place is sacred ... then that place is sacred.

        Our theme at Treeleaf is "All of Life is our Temple," so all of life is sacred and has this "energy" when we feel so. Right where you are now is a temple.

        However, Ross, as someone living in China, you simply MUST take advantage of the cultural experience of sitting in some temples! (I lived in China back in '86). There is no excuse not to do so now. Fujian is very close to Ningbo (宁波) in Zhejiang, where Dogen's boat landed, and many famous Chan/Zen temples around there.



        The 6th Ancestor and other famous temples, open to visits, are in northern Guangzhou. Tientong Monastery is up in Ningbo.

        Gassho, Jundo
        I have been looking at sitting in temples around here but life gets in the way.

        Ningbo is like 350 miles away and Guangzhou 550 miles from me but there are many other closer places I could go to sit.

        I suppose when I visit one in the future I should ask if there is somewhere I can sit rather than just visiting. I have taken part in some ceremonies but none of them involved sitting.

        Gassho
        Ross
        stlah
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        • Tairin
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2866

          #5
          Originally posted by Jundo
          I believe that such feeling is primarily a matter of the heart, and if one feels that a certain place is sacred ... then that place is sacred.

          Our theme at Treeleaf is "All of Life is our Temple," so all of life is sacred and has this "energy" when we feel so. Right where you are now is a temple.
          I come back to this concept all the time. All of life is our temple.

          Originally posted by Bion
          I truly believe our digital sangha experiences the same, if not more, as an in-person one, and that includes that “energy”.
          A little off topic but I wonder if this phenomenon isn’t in part because of the online, always present, and with a world wide community, always lights on nature of this Sangha. If I was attending a brick and mortar Sangha, I’d show up, sit, and maybe hang out for some tea after. Here at Treeleaf, I can literally walk through the door, stay and stay and stay.

          I wonder if we don’t collectively get into a sympathetic harmony because we are all reading and commentating on the same things. Someone writes feeling overwhelmed or depressed and that rubs off. Another person writes in to express some joyous occasion and we all feel a little uplifted.

          Sorry for the extra words and the random thought.


          Tairin
          Sat today and lah
          Last edited by Tairin; 09-25-2022, 12:49 PM.
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          • Bion
            Senior Priest-in-Training
            • Aug 2020
            • 4827

            #6
            Originally posted by Tairin
            I come back to this concept all the time. All of life is our temple.



            A little off topic but I wonder if this phenomenon isn’t in part because with the online, always present, and with a world wide community, always lights on nature of this Sangha. If I was attending a brick and mortar Sangha, I’d show up, sit, and maybe hang out for some tea after. Here at Treeleaf, I can literally walk through the door, stay and stay and stay.

            I wonder if we don’t collectively get into a sympathetic harmony because we are all reading and
            the same things. Someone writes in feeling overwhelmed or depressed and that rubs off. Another person writes in to express some joyous occasion and we all feel a little uplifted.

            Sorry for the extra words and the random thought.


            Tairin
            Sat today and lah
            Oh, I always think about how many times the ability we have to constantly be talking and expressing ourselves over here, is actually not that helpful. But, the online world has huge advantages so it must also have the opposite as well. This is why our 3 sentence goal is such a useful practice.

            [emoji1374] Sat Today lah
            "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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            • Tairin
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 2866

              #7
              Originally posted by Bion
              Oh, I always think about how many times the ability we have to constantly be talking and expressing ourselves over here, is actually not that helpful. But, the online world has huge advantages so it must also have the opposite as well. This is why our 3 sentence goal is such a useful practice.

              [emoji1374] Sat Today lah
              I agree with all of this.


              Tairin
              Sat today and lah
              泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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