Online Certificate in Soto Zen Studies

[Risho]

[Jundo]

I give emptiness, not nothing.

Which ain't bupkis.

Gassho, J

For those folks not familiar with the term ...

Bupkis = American slang, borrowed from the Yiddish for "goat poop," it means something worthless, or zero or nothing.

Goat poop is empty, but emptiness ain't goat poop. (A Koan)

Gassho, J

STLah

[Meian]

In case it is useful, the Fees page is here:

https://www.shin-ibs.edu/admissions/tuition-fees/

It is $2475 per course, with the certificate being 6 courses I think I will wait until I can be a Senior Auditor, which will then be $415 per course.

Wow, that price is more expensive than my grad school classes were!

Wait until Ango/Jukai season (just around the corner!) -- you "can" learn plenty (you also get out what you put into it), without needing to take out loans for it.....

, meian st

[Onka]

Oh my...

I may be wrong, but I think these kind of super expensive courses create a wall between Zen and the people. Shouldn't Soto Zen be more accesible to people?

Makes me wonder.

Gassho,

Kyonin
Sat/LAH

Gassho
Onka
st

[Jundo]

Just to be clear, this is a university program, and a university is justified in charging tuition for academic studies. This is not really a practice or religious program, but historical studies. It is not any different from what one would pay to go to college and study English literature or electrical engineering.

My kid who is a sophomore at Virginia Tech right now is taking a good portion of our savings, and a good college in America ain't cheap! (Even if I think it should be.)

Gassho, J

STLah