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  • louis
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 172

    #76
    Re: home altar

    Nice thing to have ones alter in ones pockets. (why can't I upload a bmp file?)

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    • pinoybuddhist
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 462

      #77
      Re: home altar

      No altar for me. My wife and I are planning to have one in the future, though. There was some discussion in my family about dividing Dad's ashes (and I guess Mom's as well, now that she's dead) among us. So when our little butsudan is set up, there's gonna be two urns there along with Buddha.

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      • Shokai
        Dharma Transmitted Priest
        • Mar 2009
        • 6396

        #78
        Re: home altar

        Not sure what happened along the way that I never posted this picture for show and tell.
        Lots to show, not much to tell:
        合掌,生開
        gassho, Shokai

        仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

        "Open to life in a benevolent way"

        https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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        • ChrisA
          Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 312

          #79
          Re: home altar

          How do y'all use your altar during zazen? What procedures/rituals do you follow? When you're sitting, do you look at the stuff in there, or what?
          Chris Seishi Amirault
          (ZenPedestrian)

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          • Dokan
            Friend of Treeleaf
            • Dec 2010
            • 1222

            #80
            Re: home altar

            The only two things I do with my altar is lighting of incense and ringing the bell. I start my sit by lighting the incense and touching it to my head three times (for the Jewels) and then just before I sit, I ring the bell three times and then once at the end of zazen. The incense I've done from the very beginning of my practice, I added the bells after joining Treeleaf as a mimicry of Jundo. I'm not sure if the ringing of the bells before/after zazen has a meaning, but I have always seen it as a parenthesis on my sit. (Also works to tell my house (wife & kids) to shut up as I'm about to sit...with loving-kindness). :twisted:

            Gassho,

            Shawn
            We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
            ~Anaïs Nin

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            • ChrisA
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 312

              #81
              Re: home altar

              So you don't look at anything in there while you're sitting?
              Chris Seishi Amirault
              (ZenPedestrian)

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              • Shokai
                Dharma Transmitted Priest
                • Mar 2009
                • 6396

                #82
                Re: home altar

                In the zendo the altar is a central focal point, NOT :shock: . Participants sit about the perimeter and face the wall (Soto shu) or inward (Rinzai). The body is erect and the eyes open gazing at a non-point (approx. 45° below horizon) not looking (outward, at least). The altar becomes an object in memory only and since one is NOW, the altar doesn't exist. So, why look at it
                合掌,生開
                gassho, Shokai

                仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                • ChrisA
                  Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 312

                  #83
                  Re: home altar

                  Yes, I realize that is true for zendo altars, but I've seen some people who sit zazen facing their altars at home. I also do that, but focus only on the wall behind the altar or on my little rock (to prevent my eyes from crossing!).
                  Chris Seishi Amirault
                  (ZenPedestrian)

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                  • Dokan
                    Friend of Treeleaf
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1222

                    #84
                    Re: home altar

                    Originally posted by ChrisA
                    So you don't look at anything in there while you're sitting?
                    I look at non-looking. Basically I keep my eyes un-focused (as I also 'try' to do with my mind). I feel Dogen teaches it perfect in Fukanzazengi:

                    "At the site of your regular sitting, spread out thick matting and place a cushion above it. Sit either in the full-lotus or half-lotus position. In the full-lotus position, you first place your right foot on your left thigh and your left foot on your right thigh. In the half-lotus, you simply press your left foot against your right thigh. You should have your robes and belt loosely bound and arranged in order. Then place your right hand on your left leg and your left palm (facing upwards) on your right palm, thumb-tips touching. Thus sit upright in correct bodily posture, neither inclining to the left nor to the right, neither leaning forward nor backward. Be sure your ears are on a plane with your shoulders and your nose in line with your navel. Place your tongue against the front roof of your mouth, with teeth and lips both shut. Your eyes should always remain open, and you should breathe gently through your nose.

                    Once you have adjusted your posture, take a deep breath, inhale and exhale, rock your body right and left and settle into a steady, immobile sitting position. Think not-thinking. How do you think not-thinking? Non-thinking. This in itself is the essential art of zazen."

                    Hope that helps or at least doesn't confuse things more.

                    gassho,

                    S
                    We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
                    ~Anaïs Nin

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                    • ChrisA
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 312

                      #85
                      Re: home altar

                      Yes! Look at non-looking. That nails it. Gassho!
                      Chris Seishi Amirault
                      (ZenPedestrian)

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                      • Kaishin
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2322

                        #86
                        Re: home altar

                        I'd really like something like this

                        http://www.meditationpracticesupplies.com/product/BW345

                        Close-up shot: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/boonmee_2179_1252527455

                        as I don't have much room and it would be nice to be able to close everything up and tuck it away. But man that's pricey. I can't imagine it would be too tough to build one for someone with some decent woodworking skills (not me!). :mrgreen:

                        Maybe a possible side business for those of you who have spouses who are good woodworkers (hint hint Jen and Shawn )
                        Thanks,
                        Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
                        Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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                        • Jiki22
                          Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 89

                          #87
                          Re: home altar

                          one of the four i have,
                          kitchen, bedroom, livingroom and outside

                          this one is in the kitchen
                          _/|\_ Gassho with deeply respect
                          慈 ji 氣 ki : Energy of Compassion

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                          • Dokan
                            Friend of Treeleaf
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1222

                            #88
                            Re: home altar

                            Originally posted by Matto
                            Maybe a possible side business for those of you who have spouses who are good woodworkers (hint hint Jen and Shawn )
                            Haha, I read this to her to plant the seed...will keep watering it and let you know.

                            s
                            We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
                            ~Anaïs Nin

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                            • Rev R
                              Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 457

                              #89
                              Re: home altar

                              I mentioned this in a previous thread on home altars but I'll mention it here and see if it is useful to anyone. I usually put together my altar to represent the five elements.

                              stones or plants= Earth
                              cup of water= Water
                              incense burner= Air
                              candles= Fire
                              Buddha= Void/Emptiness

                              Probably more a throwback to my "neo-pagan" days, but it is fun to play with a mythic framework from time to time.

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                              • Emmet
                                Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 296

                                #90
                                Re: home altar

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