Eight Months of Zazen

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  • houst0n
    Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 135

    Eight Months of Zazen

    Hello everyone! I hope we're all doing well.

    I thought that since I've now been practicing daily for some 7 or 8 months that maybe I could write down a few things that I've experienced in the hope that maybe anyone newer than me to this practice may benefit from reading it.

    Apologies up front for going so long.

    So, first up, let's talk about zafu's shall we? Here's my current hoard:

    Too many! (link)

    Why did I end up with so many Zafus?

    Because I was ignoring pain, and sitting in the wrong way for my current flexibility and in typical stubborn fashion blamed my tools instead of myself..

    When I started out, I was sitting for maybe 10 minutes. This was fine in really any posture. Slowly, I've extended it and now I tend to sit 2x 30 minutes a day, and for the last two months this has been intensely uncomfortable. The problem I've had was my outer leg going to sleep after 20 minutes. Not a little bit asleep but I mean completely dead. It would become so distracting I would eventually have to move, but sometimes I would just macho my way through it. This was a bad idea, I would spend the last period of my zazen completely tied up in my legs.

    I tried what I thought was everything (lots of different zafus, different clothes, different zabutons, nothing worked).. Until, last week.. I turned one of the Zafu's on its side after seeing a Muho video where he strapped a belt around his (I tried that too, btw which also works).. With just that little bit of extra height I can now sit 45 minutes with zero pain in my legs (in quarter lotus). This was a bit of a revelation for me. If only I'd have tried this months ago I could have avoided a lot of discomfort! Although, I'm quite grateful for having sat through all of that pain, as the 'little bit asleep' feelings I get towards the end now feels like nothing and is easily accepted :}

    I now sit on this bizarre looking combination: Finally! (link) Also, sitting in jeans (at least for me) poses absolutely no problem, as long as they're not too tight (although I'm a European, I grew up in the 80s/90s and so I don't wear such tight ones, Levi 511's are fine for meditation

    Second, Books!

    I may have gone a bit overboard: Books! (link) (I guess one of the benefits of being a bit of a bibliophile and having some disposable income for things I enjoy). I've especially liked the Nishijima books, and Shohaku Okumura's commentaries (I do have the Genjokoan one somewhere too, which is great). I have one or two books from Muho (In German) which I'm translating into English in a bid to improve my written German at the rate of about a page a day, which I'm also enjoying)!

    Finally, I guess a word on the effects..

    Why do I do this if there isn't an objective? On the cushion, I managed to convince myself to have no objective. It's a time when I get to, finally, stop playing the game. However, off the cushion there are subtle effects that I've noticed, which which have been quite transformative. If I miss a day, or two, I notice these things slipping. So I clearly have an objective to sit without an objective :}

    I really react much less quickly to situations that previously I would explode at. I can deal with annoying members of my family with much less effort, I've become a lot more compassionate, charitable and empathetic. Also I quit smoking (56 days!) and getting drunk (I still have a single beer or a whisky now and again, but not to intoxication). Life is getting better.

    I certainly can't have seen those things happening without zazen, treeleaf and reading so much in here even passively.

    Here's to another 6000 months of Zazen, one breath at a time.

    Thank you Jundo for making this place, and everyone for being part of it.

    See you at the Zazenkai tonight.

    Gassho,
    ./sat
    Neil
  • Suuko
    Member
    • May 2017
    • 405

    #2
    Oh, that's a beautiful post. Thank you for sharing, Neil. See you soon.

    Gassho,
    Sat,
    Suuko.

    Sent from my M2101K7BNY using Tapatalk
    Has been known as Guish since 2017 on the forum here.

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    • Bion
      Treeleaf Unsui
      • Aug 2020
      • 4561

      #3
      Well, great to see your consistent effort and congratulations on sticking with it! I guess we always find new challenges and new rewards in continuous practice, so zazen is anything but routine and we can never truly say “we’ve nailed zazen”. It’s always brand new and we always sit it for the first time! Keep at it, friend!!!!

      [emoji1374] Sat Today
      "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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      • Tomás ESP
        Member
        • Aug 2020
        • 575

        #4
        Congratulations for the consistency and many thanks for all of the sharing. May I keep going in the same spirit and enthusiasm. By the way, as someone who spent the first 7 years of Buddhist practice buying books "almost" compulsively, I would say you have at least 5 years worth of reading material (or a lifetime, depending on your way of reading). May I suggest you go through them slowly and mindfully, letting the wisdom sit and transform you

        Gassho, Tomás
        Sat&LaH

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        • houst0n
          Member
          • Nov 2021
          • 135

          #5
          Originally posted by Tomás ESP
          Congratulations for the consistency and many thanks for all of the sharing. May I keep going in the same spirit and enthusiasm. By the way, as someone who spent the first 7 years of Buddhist practice buying books "almost" compulsively, I would say you have at least 5 years worth of reading material (or a lifetime, depending on your way of reading). May I suggest you go through them slowly and mindfully, letting the wisdom sit and transform you

          Gassho, Tomás
          Sat&LaH
          Apart from the shobogenzo and koroku, I've read all of those.

          I read too much. :}

          gassho, ./sat
          Neil

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          • Jishin
            Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 4821

            #6
            "I"

            Gassho, Jishin, ST, LAH

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            • Tomás ESP
              Member
              • Aug 2020
              • 575

              #7
              Originally posted by houst0n
              Apart from the shobogenzo and koroku, I've read all of those.

              I read too much. :}

              gassho, ./sat
              Neil
              Well at least you finish them! My problem was that I read 1/2 the book and once the rush of dopamine was gone, I would hunt for another one. I am glad I am more or less past that now

              Gassho, Tomás
              Sat&LaH

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              • houst0n
                Member
                • Nov 2021
                • 135

                #8
                Originally posted by Tomás ESP
                Well at least you finish them! My problem was that I read 1/2 the book and once the rush of dopamine was gone, I would hunt for another one. I am glad I am more or less past that now

                Gassho, Tomás
                Sat&LaH
                I suspect I'll be with Dogen for some time. I did get through book 1 of Shobogenzo, but it's quite hard work. I'm having a better time with the books around it really; especially liked the Mountains and Waters Sutra commentary by Shohaku Okumura, you get 70 pages in and he's still explaining the first sentence!!

                Gassho, Neil
                ./sat

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                • houst0n
                  Member
                  • Nov 2021
                  • 135

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jishin
                  "I"

                  Gassho, Jishin, ST, LAH

                  Alas, I have a ways to go on that front.

                  Gassho, Neil, ./sat

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                  • Jishin
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 4821

                    #10

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 40351

                      #11
                      Before we start, we are just here, where one stands. Then, walking the path for 8 months, one is still just right here, where one stands, yet no longer there. The road twists left or right, but always right here too.

                      No where to get to, yet moving forward.

                      Gassho, J

                      STLah
                      Last edited by Jundo; 02-26-2022, 07:06 AM.
                      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                      • Mrcpt11
                        Member
                        • Dec 2021
                        • 13

                        #12
                        Very inspiring! I’ve been sitting for about 3 months now and have begun to experience similar results off the cushion; also a bit of a bibliophile here so the compulsive book purchases have me setup for some time on reading material lol. I have quite the monkey mind so I find myself returning to the breath quite regularly during Zazen; I have been reading an overview of madhyamika & yogacara recently and came across a helpful comment someone made on calming the mind (maybe here but I don’t remember the source). “What mind is there to quiet?”

                        Thank you again for your inspiration to another beginner to continue this practice.

                        Gassho,
                        William
                        Sattoday

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