BLOWING THE WHISTLE on the SZBA

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40371

    BLOWING THE WHISTLE on the SZBA


    I have been told that I might be booted out of the Soto Zen Buddhist Association just for writing this (an organization, by the way, that has never even kicked out a priest for sexual abuse or other improprieties toward students.) There may be pressure on moderators from influential SZBA members to have these posts taken down, or they may suddenly disappear. Some will say that we should not say bad things publicly, or that we should be 'beyond' all this, or that it is just a matter of 'Tradition' and thus cannot be challenged. Still others will say, "who cares about the SZBA?" I disagree, will take the risk, because good people are being hurt, turned away, denied recognition of what they are, discriminated against.

    The fact is that sincere people who would make excellent Soto Zen priests are facing closed doors because the SZBA refuses to recognize them as priests simply because they are physically or otherwise unable to meet the demands of in person, physically demanding residential priest training that the SZBA continues to insist upon year after year. It is not just the SZBA, but most or all of our major monastic training centers in America, Europe and Japan.

    Some will point to a few wheelchair ramps, added railings or small adjustments and loosenings of training schedules in defense: However, I am speaking of individuals, some fully confined to bed or to home, with fragile and dangerous conditions, in need of nursing care or constant treatment, people who otherwise would risk serious injury if attempting residential training. Nonetheless, these are people having the calling to be good and dedicated priests while truly understanding the impermanence of the body and the meaning of suffering.

    The SZBA is an organization which prides itself on how supposedly "woke" it is with regard to racism, social injustice and discrimination, regularly advertising such fact, and yet it continues to look the other way to its own discriminatory behavior. It studies minor adjustments, a few cut corners and small accommodations to its training standards, nothing more, pleading that it be given time, that some things cannot change or that things change only slowly. It points to some of its members who have degrees or kinds of disability which allowed them the demanded training as an excuse for its exclusion of disabled individuals who simply cannot.

    Well, now is the time, and for many individuals (some already ordained and excellent priests, but whom the SZBA would refuse to recognize because their disabilities and other conditions required alternative means of training) it is time to push back. I and others will speak up about this tragedy in the coming weeks and months until this injustice, which has continued for decades, even for centuries in Zen Buddhism, is left behind in history, even if the threatened hammer of the organization comes down on some of us.

    It is time to open the doors to such individuals who do not meet the "standard" definition of what is a Soto Zen Priest.

    Gassho, Jundo

    SatTodayLAH
    Sorry to run long.
    Last edited by Jundo; 02-06-2022, 10:15 PM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40371

    #2
    PS - By the way, I almost never ask something like this, but I could use a few "likes" where it is posted on Facebook, and tweets and such, if you agree with it ...

    You will find it if you scroll down here ...

    Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.
    Last edited by Jundo; 01-16-2022, 04:16 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Gregor
      Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 638

      #3
      Originally posted by Jundo
      PS - By the way, I almost never ask something like this, but I could use a few "likes" where it is posted on Facebook, and tweets and such, if you agree with it ...

      LINK
      Jundo can you check the link? I tried to use it to show my support but it lead me nowhere.

      Perhaps on my end only but I tried several browsers.

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40371

        #4
        Originally posted by Gregor
        Jundo can you check the link? I tried to use it to show my support but it lead me nowhere.

        Perhaps on my end only but I tried several browsers.

        Sent from my SM-N981U using Tapatalk
        Maybe it is a closed group. Hmmm. You will find it if you scroll down here ...

        Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


        Thanks for the alert, Gregor.

        Gassho, J

        STLah
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Gregor
          Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 638

          #5
          Jundo, thank you, requested to join.

          Thank you for your voice on this issue, certainly raised my awareness about the needs of people with different abilities and the unfortunate ways they have been excluded due to unconscious bias. Loss for everyone as good people are not able to serve and help share the dharma.

          Gassho,

          Greg
          STlah

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          • Suuko
            Member
            • May 2017
            • 405

            #6
            Originally posted by Jundo
            PS - By the way, I almost never ask something like this, but I could use a few "likes" where it is posted on Facebook, and tweets and such, if you agree with it ...

            You will find it if you scroll down here ...

            https://www.facebook.com/groups/SotoZenGlobal/
            Hi Jundo,

            I can't access the link. It says I have no app to access it. I appreciate your bold move on this and fully support it.

            Gassho,
            Guish.

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            • Gregor
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 638

              #7
              Originally posted by Guish
              Hi Jundo,

              I can't access the link. It says I have no app to access it. I appreciate your bold move on this and fully support it.

              Gassho,
              Guish.

              Sent from my M2101K7BNY using Tapatalk
              A quick button click got me the same result on Android but I was able to hold down the link and pick open with facebook.



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              Jukai '09 Dharma Name: Shinko 慎重(Prudent Calm)

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              • Suuko
                Member
                • May 2017
                • 405

                #8
                Originally posted by Gregor
                A quick button click got me the same result on Android but I was able to hold down the link and pick open with facebook.



                Sent from my SM-N981U using Tapatalk
                Thanks Greg. I will try from my laptop now.

                Gassho,
                Guish.

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                • Juki
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 771

                  #9
                  The Facebook link made me take a quiz, and after I submitted my answers it refused to admit me to the group.

                  Gassho,
                  Juki
                  sat today and lah
                  "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 40371

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Juki
                    The Facebook link made me take a quiz, and after I submitted my answers it refused to admit me to the group.

                    Gassho,
                    Juki
                    sat today and lah
                    That should not be. I know the folks, it is a good group. Did you give a strange answer?

                    Gassho, Jundo

                    STLah
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • Kokuu
                      Treeleaf Priest
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 6844

                      #11
                      Thank you, Jundo

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                      • Bion
                        Treeleaf Unsui
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 4581

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jundo
                        That should not be. I know the folks, it is a good group. Did you give a strange answer?

                        Gassho, Jundo

                        STLah
                        Maybe it takes some time for review and it is not an automatic process. And maybe they’re trying to control “spam” coming in ..

                        [emoji1374] Sat Today
                        "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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                        • Rousei
                          Member
                          • Oct 2020
                          • 118

                          #13
                          I believe the quiz is intended to filter out bots, and applicants need to be accepted by a moderator. So it can take a second or a day or two depending on the activity of the mods! But sit tight you should be in in due time.

                          Gassho
                          Mark
                          ST
                          浪省 - RouSei - Wandering Introspection

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                          • Tomás ESP
                            Member
                            • Aug 2020
                            • 575

                            #14
                            Thank you for speaking up, I find this action is nothing but compassionate

                            Gassho, Tomás
                            Sat&LaH

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                            • Tairin
                              Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 2826

                              #15
                              I don’t do social media so I’ll just have to “like” it here.

                              Thank you for giving a voice to this issue.


                              Tairin
                              Sat today and lah
                              泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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