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  • Tairin
    Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 3035

    What is a Bodhisattva?

    To me, sometimes, a Bodhisattva seems unreal. Like a mythical being. I like this definition below as it defines being a Bodhisattva in more real and concrete terms.

    it is the motivation for living that is different for a bodhisattva. Ordinary people live thinking only about their own personal, narrow circumstances connected with their desires. In contrast to that, a bodhisattva, though undeniably still an ordinary human being like everyone else, lives by vow.
    Here’s the whole article…

    What is a Bodhisattva - Kosho Uchiyama (https://tricycle.org/magazine/what-bodhisattva/)

    A bodhisattva is an ordinary person who takes up a course in his or her life that moves in the direction of Buddha. You and I, actually, anyone who directs their attention, their life, to practicing the way of life of a Buddha is a bodhisattva.

    Most people live by their desires or karma. That’s what the expression “gossho no bompu” means. Gossho are the obstructions to practicing the Way caused by our evil actions in the past. Bompu simply means ordinary human being—that is, one who lives by karma. Our actions are dictated by our karma: We are born into this world with our desires and may live our lives just by reacting or responding to them. In contrast is gansho no bosatsu, or a bodhisattva who lives by vow.

    The life that flows through each of us and through everything around us is actually all connected. To say that, of course, means that who I really am cannot be separated from all the things that surround me. Or, to put it another way, all sentient beings have their existence and live within my life. So needless to say, that includes even the fate of all mankind—that, too, lies within me. Therefore, just how mankind might truly live out its life becomes what I aim at as my direction. This aiming or living while moving in a certain direction is what is meant by vow.

    In other words, it is the motivation for living that is different for a bodhisattva. Ordinary people live thinking only about their own personal, narrow circumstances connected with their desires. In contrast to that, a bodhisattva, though undeniably still an ordinary human being like everyone else, lives by vow. Because of that, the significance of his or her life is not the same. For us as bodhisattvas, all aspects of life, including the fate of humanity itself, live within us. It is with this in mind that we work to discover and manifest the most vital and alive posture that we can take in living out our life.

    It’s not enough for a bodhisattva of the Mahayana to just uphold the precepts. There are times when you have to break them, too. It’s just that when you do, you have to do so with the resolve of also being willing to accept whatever consequences might follow. That’s what issai shujo to tomo ni (“together with all sentient beings”—regardless of what hell one might fall into) really means.

    It’s not enough just to know the definition of bodhisattva. What’s much more important is to study the actions of a bodhisattva and then to behave like one yourself.

    Regarding the question “What is a bodhisattva?” you could also define a bodhisattva as one who acts as a true adult. That is, most people in the world act like children. The word dainin means “true adult” or “bodhisattva.” Today most people who are called adults are only pseudoadults. Physically they grow up and become adult but spiritually too many people never mature to adulthood. They don’t behave as adults in their daily lives. A bodhisattva is one who sees the world through adult eyes and whose actions are the actions of a true adult. That is really what a bodhisattva is.

    Tairin
    Sat today and lah
    泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 41708

    #2
    You may like an old series around here,

    Bodhisattva-Basics: Whattsa Who'sa Bodhisattva? (A Sit-a-Long Series)
    Dear All Bodhisattvas! Below is a series of 'sit-a-longs' reflecting on several of the famous "Greats" among the Bodhisattvas ... Kannon, Maitreya, Manjusri, Jizo, Samantabhadra, Vimalakīrti and others ... as well as the qualities of a Bodhisattva which can manifest in any of our words, thoughts and actions in life .


    Basic point is that ...

    When your or my hands act with Compassion and generosity, Kannon's 1000 hands come alive through us. Compassion becomes a real force in the universe, and Kannon becomes real, when we act with Compassion. It is so for all the Bodhisattvas.

    Gassho, J
    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 12-12-2021, 10:54 PM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Kyōsen
      Member
      • Aug 2019
      • 311

      #3
      I like that within the Four Vows we recite here at Treeleaf we can find an abbreviated form of the Bodhisattva Vow that appears in the Bodhicaryāvatāra:

      To save all sentient beings, though beings numberless

      To transform all delusions, though delusions inexhaustible

      To perceive Reality, though Reality is boundless

      To attain the Enlightened Way, a Way non-attainable
      Though just a single line, its implications are vast and we could spend volumes speaking about it but, really, what more needs to be said? A Bodhisattva, an "Enlightening Hero" is one who vows to save/liberate all sentient beings even though there are numberless numbers of beings in the multiverse of multiverses; it's work that will never be complete and, yet, is already complete.

      Gassho
      Kyōsen
      Sat|LAH
      橋川
      kyō (bridge) | sen (river)

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      • Tairin
        Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3035

        #4
        Originally posted by Jundo
        You may like an old series around here,

        Bodhisattva-Basics: Whattsa Who'sa Bodhisattva? (A Sit-a-Long Series)
        Dear All Bodhisattvas! Below is a series of 'sit-a-longs' reflecting on several of the famous "Greats" among the Bodhisattvas ... Kannon, Maitreya, Manjusri, Jizo, Samantabhadra, Vimalakīrti and others ... as well as the qualities of a Bodhisattva which can manifest in any of our words, thoughts and actions in life .

        Thanks for the reminder of this series of talks. It has been a few years since I first watched them. Time for some review.


        Tairin
        Sat today and lah
        泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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        • Suuko
          Member
          • May 2017
          • 406

          #5
          Originally posted by Kyōsen
          I like that within the Four Vows we recite here at Treeleaf we can find an abbreviated form of the Bodhisattva Vow that appears in the Bodhicaryāvatāra:



          Though just a single line, its implications are vast and we could spend volumes speaking about it but, really, what more needs to be said? A Bodhisattva, an "Enlightening Hero" is one who vows to save/liberate all sentient beings even though there are numberless numbers of beings in the multiverse of multiverses; it's work that will never be complete and, yet, is already complete.

          Gassho
          Kyōsen
          Sat|LAH
          I am not going to get it completely accurate but Suzuki said something like this. The point of Buddhism is not to try to do something which we think we can. So, I think we strive to live in a way where the standards we have set are very high but we know they are worth working towards.

          Gassho,
          Sat today,
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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 41708

            #6
            I will say that Uchiyama Roshi, as a good essayist, made some comments about Bodhisattvas that are more his personal interpretation than "doctrine." For example ...

            Ordinary people live thinking only about their own personal, narrow circumstances connected with their desires. In contrast to that, a bodhisattva, though undeniably still an ordinary human being like everyone else, lives by vow. ... For us as bodhisattvas, all aspects of life, including the fate of humanity itself, live within us.
            Yes, but it is a very idealized religious sentiment. I know many "ordinary people" like fire fighters, priests and doctors who also "live by vow," yet can also have their own desires. I would suggest to look at the Bodhisattva as an ideal, an archetype. Imagine it like a sliding scale, with "completely selfish and self-absorbed" person on one side, and saintly "Bodhisattva" on the other. All our human behavior is on the scale, and the more we live by vow to aid others, the more "Bodhisattva-like" are we. However, actually, all of us are mixtures.

            t’s not enough for a bodhisattva of the Mahayana to just uphold the precepts. There are times when you have to break them, too. It’s just that when you do, you have to do so with the resolve of also being willing to accept whatever consequences might follow. That’s what issai shujo to tomo ni (“together with all sentient beings”—regardless of what hell one might fall into) really means.
            It is the old example of, for example, the Bodhisattva might have to tell a lie to protect someone's life, or kill one person to save 500 people. Even if we do so, we should feel the weight of having needed to do so.

            Regarding the question “What is a bodhisattva?” you could also define a bodhisattva as one who acts as a true adult. That is, most people in the world act like children. The word dainin means “true adult” or “bodhisattva.” Today most people who are called adults are only pseudoadults. Physically they grow up and become adult but spiritually too many people never mature to adulthood. They don’t behave as adults in their daily lives. A bodhisattva is one who sees the world through adult eyes and whose actions are the actions of a true adult. That is really what a bodhisattva is.
            This is the part I meant as mostly Uchiyama's feeling. It is a nice thought however. Maybe it is true.

            Sorry to run long.

            Gassho, J

            STLah
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • Gregor
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 638

              #7
              Reb Anderson talks about this in his book, "Being Upright". Wonderful resource about the precepts.

              Going to leave a screen shot of a good passage here.


              Gassho,

              Greg
              STLAH



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              • Bion
                Senior Priest-in-Training
                • Aug 2020
                • 5389

                #8
                Originally posted by Gregor
                Reb Anderson talks about this in his book, "Being Upright". Wonderful resource about the precepts.

                Going to leave a screen shot of a good passage here.


                Gassho,

                Greg
                STLAH



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                I find that to be an interesting approach that focuses a lot on “self”. For me, the way of the boddhisatva is rooted in the precepts and vows to put others before oneself, understanding there is no separation to be made, yet seeing clearly the uniqueness of each life and the need we have for selfless care and compassion. To me, more than just being a good guy - which I think is an amazing trait - a boddhisatva is entrusted with the precepts which are formally received and accepted before the sangha, so there should be an active pursuit of keeping them and a sense of responsibility.

                [emoji1374] SatToday
                "A person should train right here & now.
                Whatever you know as discordant in the world,
                don't, for its sake, act discordantly,
                for that life, the enlightened say, is short." - The Buddha

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                • Gregor
                  Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 638

                  #9
                  Hey Bion,

                  Completely appreciate what you are saying;
                  It certainly is about living by a vow.

                  In the passage he is offering an approachable perspective for someone overwhelmed by the idea of pledging to "save all beings". This approach may focus on the self but only in the way that it creates an openneness to people; Creating a vibration that enables the "self" to be present for "others"

                  "The bodhisattva is a tuning fork, helping everyone to find a harmonious pitch together.”



                  Gassho,

                  Gregory
                  ST

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                  • Suuko
                    Member
                    • May 2017
                    • 406

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gregor
                    Reb Anderson talks about this in his book, "Being Upright". Wonderful resource about the precepts.

                    Going to leave a screen shot of a good passage here.


                    Gassho,

                    Greg
                    STLAH



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                    That's a beautiful extract. Thanks for sharing. I struggle with self compassion and self love because I am very critical towards myself and constantly push myself.

                    Gassho,
                    Sat today,
                    Guish.

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                    • Doshin
                      Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 2621

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bion
                      I find that to be an interesting approach that focuses a lot on “self”.
                      For me, the way of the boddhisatva is rooted in the precepts and vows to put others before oneself, understanding there is no separation to be made, yet seeing clearly the uniqueness of each life and the need we have for selfless care and compassion.
                      me, more than just being a good guy - which I think is an amazing trait - a boddhisatva is entrusted with the precepts which are formally received and accepted before the sangha, so there should be an active pursuit of keeping them and a sense of responsibility.

                      [emoji1374] SatToday

                      Bion

                      I found your words to define Bodhisattva beautiful. And I thought about them for awhile. The challenging part is where you say “put others before oneself.” That is a large commitment or sacrifice. Of course at times we can and should do that but is it always what we should do? For me not nor would I advise it for others. There are times we must choose what is best for our well being. Having said that I do not think a person can not be a Bodhisattva or travel on the path of one if they do not always put other first. Maybe I misunderstand. Please share your thoughts. Thank you.

                      Doshin
                      St

                      PS I am trying out the green text box thing discussed previously and I see I have a box within a box. I am getting closer..maybe
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                      • Bion
                        Senior Priest-in-Training
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 5389

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Doshin
                        Bion

                        I found your words to define Bodhisattva beautiful. And I thought about them for awhile. The challenging part is where you say “put others before oneself.” That is a large commitment or sacrifice. Of course at times we can and should do that but is it always what we should do? For me not nor would I advise it for others. There are times we must choose what is best for our well being. Having said that I do not think a person can not be a Bodhisattva or travel on the path of one if they do not always put other first. Maybe I misunderstand. Please share your thoughts. Than you.

                        Doshin
                        St
                        The very definition of boddhisatva is “a sentient being on the path to buddhahood, who vows to attain enlightenment for the sake of all beings and not pass into Nirvana while other beings continue to suffer”. In buddhist terms, that’s pretty selfless and generous. I believe that intention should be always present. The care for all beings should be the main focus, but that care comes in many many forms. Also, if we manage to eliminate the deluded distinction of self-others, then caring for oneself is caring for all beings and vice-versa. Basically, my ideas is: be as kind and compassionate as I can, to myself and others. As we say, “vow to try, as I can, in this body and life…”

                        Sorry for running a lil’ long.

                        [emoji1374] Sat Today
                        "A person should train right here & now.
                        Whatever you know as discordant in the world,
                        don't, for its sake, act discordantly,
                        for that life, the enlightened say, is short." - The Buddha

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                        • Suuko
                          Member
                          • May 2017
                          • 406

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bion
                          The very definition of boddhisatva is “a sentient being on the path to buddhahood, who vows to attain enlightenment for the sake of all beings and not pass into Nirvana while other beings continue to suffer”. In buddhist terms, that’s pretty selfless and generous. I believe that intention should be always present. The care for all beings should be the main focus, but that care comes in many many forms. Also, if we manage to eliminate the deluded distinction of self-others, then caring for oneself is caring for all beings and vice-versa. Basically, my ideas is: be as kind and compassionate as I can, to myself and others. As we say, “vow to try, as I can, in this body and life…”

                          Sorry for running a lil’ long.

                          [emoji1374] Sat Today
                          Well said, Bion. You can't be kind to others if you're not kind to yourself as others and I are ultimately just one. When we bow to save all sentient beings, it includes us as well.

                          Gassho,
                          Sat today,
                          Guish.

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