For Dogen Wonks: Dogen, Founder of Soto Zen in Japan

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40719
    #1

    For Dogen Wonks: Dogen, Founder of Soto Zen in Japan

    For Dogen Diggin' Dudes: I know next to nothing about the teacher in the video, AH Almaas, who is not at all a Soto Zen fellow particularly, and seems to have his own "pan-spiritual" group for many years. I know little about the group, HOWEVER, he offers a very perceptive, insightful, very learned and deeply wise interpretation of Dogen in this talk, I believe. He truly knows Dogen's teachings well, truly cherishes Dogen, and I found that some of his presentation brought light and freshness to several well known Dogen passages. It is a long presentation, about 2 hours, but well worth the ride for those who roll with Dogen. I cannot otherwise recommend this teacher and his group, as I do not know them well, but this particular talk is ... Lovely.

    I will add that this teacher was very helpful in contrasting Dogen with Vedanta and Dzogchen teachings and why they ARE NOT the same. Sometimes we get folks from various other traditions who comment on Dogen and Soto practice who do not understand the subtle taste and uniqueness of Dogen. In this case we have a teacher from another tradition who truly understands Dogen and Soto practice. I will not say that Vedanta and Dzogchen are totally different, for they are not at all ... yet this will explain why Dogen is not Vedanta or Dzogchen, and they are very different (yes, that is a koan).

    It is a very rewarding talk, worth the time, especially for those who dive into Dogen's bottomless pool.


    Gassho, J

    STLah

    Sorry to run long
    Last edited by Jundo; 12-09-2021, 02:38 AM.
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    • Bion
      Senior Priest-in-Training
      • Aug 2020
      • 4798
      #2
      For Dogen Wonks: Dogen, Founder of Soto Zen in Japan

      Thanks for this! It was quite a fantastic talk. He has a very clear way of explaining himself and for me, it really clarified and corrected some things. I feel it requires coming back to rewatch a few times.

      [emoji1374] SatToday
      Last edited by Bion; 12-09-2021, 12:21 PM.
      "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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        • Shinshi
          Senior Priest-in-Training
          • Jul 2010
          • 3720
          #3


          Thank you Jundo. I will take a look.

          Gassho, Shinshi

          SaT-LaH
          空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

          For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
          ​— Shunryu Suzuki
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          E84I - JAJ

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            • Tomás ESP
              Member
              • Aug 2020
              • 575
              #4
              "Birth is understood as no-birth... Birth is an expression complete in this moment. Death is an expression complete at this moment. They are like winter and spring. You do not call winter the beginning of spring, nor summer the end of spring".

              That blew me away, in a visceral sense. Thank you for sharing, much to be learned from this video

              Gassho, Tomás
              Sat&LaH
              Last edited by Tomás ESP; 12-09-2021, 08:59 PM.

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                • aprapti
                  Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 889
                  #5
                  this Dogen wonk says: thanks, Jundo!



                  aprapti

                  sat

                  hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice
                  Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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