Greatest Hits #2 - The Best Zen is so Disappointing - Celebrating Treeleaf's 15th

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  • Shoka
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 2370

    Greatest Hits #2 - The Best Zen is so Disappointing - Celebrating Treeleaf's 15th

    Sorry everyone it didn’t take long for our Greatest Hits to be disappointing!

    In another classic Jundo talk, he takes away all the mystery, high hopes and leaves us pretty disappointed in zen’s ability to fix any of the ills in our life. Or even to at least make us feel great while we are sitting for the day.

    Jundo even points out that “counter-intuitive as it may seem, a Sangha or Teacher which meets all the student's expectations, golden dreams, ideals and desires too would be a disservice”

    So not only do we not get peaches and cream, but we should be prepared for rough spots.

    It’s a wonder any of us stayed around for Treeleaf to get to it’s 15 year anniversary with that rosie outlook!



    The original post can be found here:
    THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ZEN TALK YOU WILL EVER HEAR, though pretty mediocre and quite forgettable. It will save Zen Students endless tail chasing and dead-ends, disappointments and wasted days ... by pointing out that tail chasing is arriving, wasted days are timeless. It will allow every Sitting to be Magnificent ... both



    Do you remember when you first heard this talk or the same message from Jundo?

    Gassho,
    Shoka
    (she/her)
    sat/lah

    PS - Yes, I do find myself punny :P
  • Tai Shi
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 3468

    #2
    I never compliment Jundo on his Dharma talk. There are good things and bad things about each talk. There are good talks and bad talks. Jundo is human and he can get sick like you and me. There is no magic in Zen, and there is no whim wham in Jundo. Give me a break! You are human too. And you just might be making a mistake here!
    Gassho
    sat/ lah
    Tai Shi


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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    • Onkai
      Senior Priest-in-Training
      • Aug 2015
      • 3137

      #3
      When I viewed this video for the first time, it encouraged me to keep a regular practice, even with the ups and downs I felt with it. I was glad to have found a teacher who presented the practice this way. The interactions of an online zendo are different than the interactions in person, and this teaching helped me navigate this way of relating. To acknowledge that the practice and the teachers are very ordinary is grounding. Maybe I'm not disappointed enough, but I don't mind that. :=) Sorry to go over three sentences.

      Gassho,
      Onkai
      Sat/lah
      Last edited by Onkai; 04-17-2021, 03:36 PM. Reason: Repeated a word unintentionally
      美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
      恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

      I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40961

        #4
        Originally posted by Tai Shi
        I never compliment Jundo on his Dharma talk. There are good things and bad things about each talk. There are good talks and bad talks. Jundo is human and he can get sick like you and me. There is no magic in Zen, and there is no whim wham in Jundo. Give me a break! You are human too. And you just might be making a mistake here!
        Gassho
        sat/ lah
        Tai Shi
        Tai Shi gets it!
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Tairin
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2919

          #5
          This is a lesson I remind myself of frequently.


          Tairin
          Sat today and lah
          泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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          • Doshin
            Member
            • May 2015
            • 2634

            #6
            Jundo,

            I strive to be more like you Your kindness, tolerance and acceptance of iimperfection are role models.

            Doshin
            St

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            • Zenkon
              Member
              • May 2020
              • 228

              #7
              Perhaps, expect nothing

              want nothing

              Accept everything

              Gassho

              Dick

              Sat/lah

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 40961

                #8
                Originally posted by Doshin
                Jundo,

                I strive to be more like you Your kindness, tolerance and acceptance of iimperfection are role models.

                Doshin
                St
                Hah! My wife and kids might disagree sometimes.

                Gassho, J

                STLah
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Tai Shi
                  Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 3468

                  #9
                  Thank you Jundo for everything you do for us!!!
                  Gassho sat
                  lah
                  Tai Shi


                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
                  Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                  • Onkai
                    Senior Priest-in-Training
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 3137

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dick
                    Perhaps, expect nothing

                    want nothing

                    Accept everything

                    Gassho

                    Dick

                    Sat/lah


                    Gassho,
                    Onkai
                    Sat/lah
                    美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
                    恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

                    I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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