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  • T@r0
    Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 18

    A question about Jukai - prerequisites and readiness

    Hi all, I’d really like to deepen my Zen practice and connection to the Soto Zen lineage, and taking Jukai is a step I’d like to take. Are there any prerequisites to taking Jukai, such as completing a certain length of practice, or something along those lines? And when do you know you’re ready for it?

    Thank you
    Gassho ✨💫
    Clinton
    To study Buddhism is to study ourselves.
    To study ourselves is to forget ourselves.
    - Dogen Zenji
  • Bion
    Treeleaf Unsui
    • Aug 2020
    • 4561

    #2
    Hi Clinton. Our next Jukai ceremony is somewhere around January 2022... plenty of time for you to get “ready” in whatever way you feel appropriate. Jukai is preceded by Ango, study of the precepts, rakusu sewing and a whole lot of practice. So, do not worry too much. Just sit, develop a daily or regular practice that suits your schedule and circumstances and see how that goes.
    I’m sure in a second Jundo will give you plenty more details.

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 40351

      #3
      Originally posted by T@r0
      Hi all, I’d really like to deepen my Zen practice and connection to the Soto Zen lineage, and taking Jukai is a step I’d like to take. Are there any prerequisites to taking Jukai, such as completing a certain length of practice, or something along those lines? And when do you know you’re ready for it?

      Thank you
      Gassho ✨��
      Clinton
      Hi Clinton,

      Yes, our Jukai preparations start each September for the ceremony in January, with reflections and study on each of the Precepts and sewing a Rakusu, and you are more than welcome to join in if it feels right to you.

      However, in my book, the most important thing is -not- the ceremony itself, which alone works no magic by itself. The ceremony is just a celebration and affirmation of our seeking to live gently, and to learn from the Buddhist teachings, right now and each day. The ceremony just celebrates and confirms that fact. More important is that you do your best, today, to live gently in a way helpful and healthy to oneself and others (who are "not two," by the way), avoiding harm such as excess desires, anger, violence, jealousy, ugly speech and the like. That is the real Jukai, undertaking the Precepts, each day.

      Gassho, Jundo

      STLah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • T@r0
        Member
        • Jan 2021
        • 18

        #4
        Originally posted by Bion
        Hi Clinton. Our next Jukai ceremony is somewhere around January 2022... plenty of time for you to get “ready” in whatever way you feel appropriate. Jukai is preceded by Ango, study of the precepts, rakusu sewing and a whole lot of practice. So, do not worry too much. Just sit, develop a daily or regular practice that suits your schedule and circumstances and see how that goes.
        I’m sure in a second Jundo will give you plenty more details.

        [emoji1374] SatToday (sorry for extra length)
        Thank you very much for your reply Bion! I appreciate it.

        Gassho ✨💫
        To study Buddhism is to study ourselves.
        To study ourselves is to forget ourselves.
        - Dogen Zenji

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        • T@r0
          Member
          • Jan 2021
          • 18

          #5
          Originally posted by Jundo
          Hi Clinton,

          Yes, our Jukai preparations start each September for the ceremony in January, with reflections and study on each of the Precepts and sewing a Rakusu, and you are more than welcome to join in if it feels right to you.

          However, in my book, the most important thing is -not- the ceremony itself, which alone works no magic by itself. The ceremony is just a celebration and affirmation of our seeking to live gently, and to learn from the Buddhist teachings, right now and each day. The ceremony just celebrates and confirms that fact. More important is that you do your best, today, to live gently in a way helpful and healthy to oneself and others (who are "not two," by the way), avoiding harm such as excess desires, anger, violence, jealousy, ugly speech and the like. That is the real Jukai, undertaking the Precepts, each day.

          Gassho, Jundo

          STLah
          Thank you Jundo! Your insight is wonderful and inspiring. I’m sure there will be a notification when it all starts in September?

          Gassho ✨💫
          To study Buddhism is to study ourselves.
          To study ourselves is to forget ourselves.
          - Dogen Zenji

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40351

            #6
            Originally posted by T@r0
            Thank you Jundo! Your insight is wonderful and inspiring. I’m sure there will be a notification when it all starts in September?

            Gassho ✨��
            Yes, we don't keep it secret.

            Gassho, Jundo

            SatTodayLAH
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • T@r0
              Member
              • Jan 2021
              • 18

              #7
              Originally posted by Jundo
              Yes, we don't keep it secret.

              Gassho, Jundo

              SatTodayLAH
              Hmm esoteric Zen - now that would be something to sell! Lol I’m looking forward to it.

              Gassho ✨💫
              To study Buddhism is to study ourselves.
              To study ourselves is to forget ourselves.
              - Dogen Zenji

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