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  • JimInBC
    Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 125

    Letting Go of Anger

    Any suggestions on how to let go of anger? At this point, all necessary actions on my side - self protection, negotiation, moving on - have been done. I have meditated, worked at Metta, maintained self care practices. The situation might not have been fair, but it is over. And yet, it still takes up far more mental real estate.

    Thank you for your suggestions.

    Gassho,
    Jim
    Sat Today/LAH
    No matter how much zazen we do, poor people do not become wealthy, and poverty does not become something easy to endure.
    Kōshō Uchiyama, Opening the Hand of Thought
  • Shonin
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 885

    #2
    This is something i struggle with from time to time. For me I try to examine the situation from all aspects and decide if it is worth being angry or not. I don't think there is really any quick fast cure all. Just continue doing what you're doing. My therapist recommends only thinking about the problem for 15 minutes. then move on to something else. Don't ruminate and stew in the bad areas. Try finding activities to take your mind off it. For me I'm a gamer. I get frustrated and go to my "unreality" happy place. What makes you happy?
    Dave
    SAT/LAH

    Much metta to you.

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    • Bokucho
      Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 264

      #3
      If you find out let me know! Seriously, out of all of the emotions, anger is the one that lingers the longest. It doesn't work every time, but I often have luck with viewing anger as a product of my ego and exploring why my ego is feeling so attacked in the moment. Also, I've allowed anger to just be in that moment and not feel guilty about feeling anger (acting on it is a different story) because anger is a very natural emotion. Often when I allow it to be it dissipates much more quickly. Apologies for going over the three sentences!

      Gassho,

      Bokuchō (Josh)
      SatToday / LaH

      Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

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      • Bion
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Aug 2020
        • 4825

        #4
        Originally posted by JimInBC
        Any suggestions on how to let go of anger? At this point, all necessary actions on my side - self protection, negotiation, moving on - have been done. I have meditated, worked at Metta, maintained self care practices. The situation might not have been fair, but it is over. And yet, it still takes up far more mental real estate.

        Thank you for your suggestions.

        Gassho,
        Jim
        Sat Today/LAH
        Hi Jim. If you feel you’ve done everything you could, then general advice is a bit useless here, because the root of your anger needs to be tackled and that has nothing to do with anyone other than yourself. My point is: you need specific advice on specific issues.

        [emoji1374] SatToday
        "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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        • Onka
          Member
          • May 2019
          • 1576

          #5
          Originally posted by JimInBC
          Any suggestions on how to let go of anger? At this point, all necessary actions on my side - self protection, negotiation, moving on - have been done. I have meditated, worked at Metta, maintained self care practices. The situation might not have been fair, but it is over. And yet, it still takes up far more mental real estate.

          Thank you for your suggestions.

          Gassho,
          Jim
          Sat Today/LAH
          Hi Jim
          When you.find the way to rid yourself of anger please let me know, then copyright it and make million.of dollars. In all seriosness though what kinda sorta maybe is working for me is two reminders that I have set for a number of times a day. One is 'Be Positive', the other 'Patience'.
          I sit something Jundo calls Insta-Zazen throughout the day as well.
          These things in addition to my daily Zazen practice are starting to have a beneficial effect but make no mistake, a lot of things still piss me off and take up mental real estate.
          Be kind to yourself Jim
          Gassho
          Onka
          Sat today/Got angry at something I read in the news
          穏 On (Calm)
          火 Ka (Fires)
          They/She.

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40770

            #6
            Originally posted by JimInBC
            Any suggestions on how to let go of anger? At this point, all necessary actions on my side - self protection, negotiation, moving on - have been done. I have meditated, worked at Metta, maintained self care practices. The situation might not have been fair, but it is over. And yet, it still takes up far more mental real estate.

            Thank you for your suggestions.

            Gassho,
            Jim
            Sat Today/LAH
            Hi Jim,

            You will get some excellent advice here, because most human beings deal with anger sometimes, some folks more than others. Of course, read all the books on anger management, and get counselling from a mental health professional if the anger is becoming so bad that it causes real harm in your life.

            The best advice I know is that, first, there is a difference between feeling anger and ACTING in anger. Don't act or speak out of anger if you can help it, and just BREATHE BREATHE BREATHE, focusing on the breath until the urge to act passes. If it does not immediately pass, well, KEEP BREATHING, it eventually will!

            Next, learn the difference between feeling angry and grabbing onto, wallowing and stirring up the anger in your mind. Feel the anger like it is just another object in the room to observe, like a stain on the carpet. Let it be, don't fixate on it, and it is not a problem. So, let yourself feel anger as if a spectator in a theatre watching a show, knowing that it will pass. There is a difference between (1) feeling anger and buying into what it is selling (what I used to do always) and (2) feeling anger but developing the space to say to yourself within, "Hey, this is just temporary theatre of the mind, a passing scene, just the mind playing its games, and in a few minutes it will pass and some other emotion will take its place."

            Finally, we sit Shikantaza Zazen, letting all the world be all the world, even the parts we find terribly sucky. We demand nothing in sitting but to sit, letting storming emotions just storm like a rainstorm outside. Soon, some light comes peaking through the clouds, rendering them gossamer and less dark.

            I am sure other folks will be here with lots of good advice.

            Gassho, J

            STLah
            Last edited by Jundo; 01-23-2021, 09:06 AM.
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40770

              #7
              PS - Here is a little more on anger that may be helpful ...

              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Jishin
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 4821

                #8
                Hi Jim,

                Intellectually step back and realize that anger is a thought and an emotion, only real as a thought and emotion. Practice being with but not acting out on thoughts and emotions (shikantaza?).

                Don't take the mind so seriously.

                Best of luck.

                Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

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                • JimInBC
                  Member
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 125

                  #9
                  Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I found it very comforting to be reminded how much I'm not alone in this struggle. And I found your suggestions quite helpful.

                  Gassho,
                  Jim
                  Sat Today
                  No matter how much zazen we do, poor people do not become wealthy, and poverty does not become something easy to endure.
                  Kōshō Uchiyama, Opening the Hand of Thought

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                  • Risho
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 3178

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JimInBC
                    Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I found it very comforting to be reminded how much I'm not alone in this struggle. And I found your suggestions quite helpful.

                    Gassho,
                    Jim
                    Sat Today
                    You are not alone; anger is a dear friend of mine hahaha

                    gassho

                    risho
                    -stlah
                    Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                    • Tom A.
                      Member
                      • May 2020
                      • 255

                      #11
                      These are some tips and tricks I use:

                      Ask yourself two questions: 1. Is the anger appropriate for the situation? And 2. Is the anger helpful in any way?

                      If no to one or both of these questions, then let go of the anger by using compassion (perhaps loving kindness-metta meditation), sympathy (use reason to understand the other person as if they were you) or challenging negative thoughts (some common anger thoughts to challenge are: labeling-calling somebody a name as if that completely represents them and personalizing-blaming someone or something that is beyond your control)

                      And remember Santideva’s version of “the dichotomy of control” commonly known as the “Serenity prayer”:

                      If there's a remedy when trouble strikes,
                      What reason is there for dejection?
                      And if there is no help for it,
                      What use is there in being glum?



                      Gassho
                      Tom
                      Sat/Lah
                      “Do what’s hard to do when it is the right thing to do.”- Robert Sopalsky

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                      • Onkai
                        Senior Priest-in-Training
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 3097

                        #12
                        Originally posted by StoBird

                        ...remember Santideva’s version of “the dichotomy of control” commonly known as the “Serenity prayer”:

                        If there's a remedy when trouble strikes,
                        What reason is there for dejection?
                        And if there is no help for it,
                        What use is there in being glum?



                        Gassho
                        Tom
                        Sat/Lah


                        Gassho,
                        Onkai
                        Sat/lah
                        美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
                        恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

                        I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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                        • gaurdianaq
                          Member
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 252

                          #13
                          For me, honestly it's just something that has gotten easier with time. Realizing that it's not worth holding on to. I don't think I've found any quick fix, I just feel that I've just slowly learned to not hold on to things as much in general. I've definitely found taking a step back from the situation can be helpful. And during the times where I was too caught up in the moment to step back, reflecting back on the situation and going over it in my mind after I'd cooled down helped me to step back the next time the situation came up. Also if it's anger with another person, trying to make an effort to remind myself about what might have led them to do the thing they did that angered me. If I understand why someone did something, it makes it much easier to accept it.

                          Apologies for going over


                          Evan,
                          Sat today, lah
                          Just going through life one day at a time!

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                          • Getchi
                            Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 612

                            #14
                            HI!
                            Jundo, and jishin, both hit the mark as far as im concerned.

                            HATE as much as you want/can. There is a limit.

                            And then forgive - this is without limit.

                            FOrgive yourself for whatever, forgive them for ignorance.

                            Its worked for me, and i hope it works for you too.

                            (it might take a while!).


                            -Geoff.
                            LentAhand
                            SaT x3.
                            Nothing to do? Why not Sit?

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40770

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Matt_
                              Maybe this video will help: ... Replace "anxiety" with "anger" in your instance. It really can be applied to everything. When you give the feeling all the space it needs, overtime, something wonderful happens. In the mean time, be kind, be present, be gentle and be patient with and to yourself - everything else will take care of itself.

                              Warm wishes,

                              Matt
                              That is pretty good, and very sound advice. I have heard worse guidance from mindfulness teachers for sure.

                              Still a little flavor of trying to use meditation as a tool though, which is a bit of a caution by me. Otherwise, very nice.

                              Gassho, J

                              STLah
                              Last edited by Jundo; 01-31-2021, 08:06 AM.
                              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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