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  • Tairin
    Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 2847

    I received my copy of “Zen Master’s Dance” today. Sort of a delayed Christmas present.

    Again congratulations Jundo!


    Tairin
    Sat today and lah
    泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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    • Inshin
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      • Jul 2020
      • 557

      Originally posted by Bokusei

      Father Christmas was kind enough to give me two gifts this year. They complement one another surprising well. The fungi one also ties very neatly into the topic of the most recent Zen of Everything podcast. Nature at its most miraculous!

      Gassho

      ST


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      Bokusei, thank you so much for recommending The Entangled. I was lucky to get it for free in my Audible free trial. It's mind blowing.

      The indigenous Pottawatomi language is rich in verb forms that attributes aliveness to the more than human world. The word for "hill" for example, is a verb "to be a hill". Hills are always in process of hilling, they are actively being hills.
      How Dogen is that?!

      Equipped in this grammar of animacy, it is possible to talk about life of other organisms without either reducing them to "it", or borrowing concepts traditionally reserved for humans. By contrast, in English there is no way to simply recognise the existence of another being: if you're not a human subject by default you're an inanimate object "it" - a mere thing. If you repurpose the human concept to make sense of the life of non-human organism, you've tumbled into a trap of antopomorphism. Use it and you've objectified the organism and fell into a different kind of a trap.
      The use of Koans in Zen makes so much sense.


      Sorry for going over 3 sentences, but as a Language and Culture graduate I found it super fascinating.

      Gassho
      Sat

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      • Tairin
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        • Feb 2016
        • 2847

        Originally posted by Ania
        Bokusei, thank you so much for recommending The Entangled. I was lucky to get it for free in my Audible free trial. It's mind blowing.



        How Dogen is that?!



        The use of Koans in Zen makes so much sense.


        Sorry for going over 3 sentences, but as a Language and Culture graduate I found it super fascinating.

        Gassho
        Sat
        That’s fascinating Ania. Are those quotes from “The Entangled Life” book? You have me intrigued enough to buy it.


        Tairin
        Sat today and lah
        泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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        • Inshin
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          • Jul 2020
          • 557

          Originally posted by Tairin
          That’s fascinating Ania. Are those quotes from “The Entangled Life” book? You have me intrigued enough to buy it.


          Tairin
          Sat today and lah
          Yes, it's from that book. Though it is mostly about fungi and ecosystem - a fascinating study showing interconnectedness of everything.

          Gassho
          Sat

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          • Risho
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 3178

            Entangled life sounds fascinating! Thanks for the recommendation

            I don’t know about that other one though; seems weird :-p

            gassho

            risho
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            • Bokusei
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              • Apr 2015
              • 87

              Originally posted by Inshin
              Bokusei, thank you so much for recommending The Entangled. I was lucky to get it for free in my Audible free trial. It's mind blowing.



              How Dogen is that?!



              The use of Koans in Zen makes so much sense.


              Sorry for going over 3 sentences, but as a Language and Culture graduate I found it super fascinating.

              Gassho
              Sat
              You are very welcome Inshin. Delighted to share in the wonder of it all!

              Gassho
              saTToday


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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 40719

                Originally posted by _Jd_
                Jundo,

                I tried scrolling through most of this thread for an answer to no luck (maybe I just missed it). Is there a preferred outlet to purchase the book from (where you receive the best return)? I see it's on Amazon prime, or is it better to purchase from the publisher or somewhere else?

                Gassho
                Jd

                Sat today
                Hi Jd,

                I know and understand fully how many folks feel about Amazon!

                I suppose that the publisher's website is the best, or from a small book seller. I think there are some local book shops through which one can order.

                Thank you for asking.

                Gassho, Jundo

                STLah
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Jishin
                  Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 4821

                  Released Today: THE ZEN MASTER’S DANCE by Jundo Cohen!

                  Originally posted by _Jd_
                  Jundo,

                  I tried scrolling through most of this thread for an answer to no luck (maybe I just missed it). Is there a preferred outlet to purchase the book from (where you receive the best return)? I see it's on Amazon prime, or is it better to purchase from the publisher or somewhere else?

                  Gassho
                  Jd

                  Sat today
                  I would say that the primary reason Amazon has been so successful is that they provide an excellent service at good prices. To purchase books from others is to discourage excellence from businesses. Additionally, I profit from books that you buy from Amazon as I own stock in it.

                  Use common sense.


                  Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__
                  Last edited by Jishin; 06-30-2021, 04:34 PM.

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                  • Tai Shi
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                    • Oct 2014
                    • 3438

                    Actually Amazon started out as a Book publishing company and wholesale marketer for books. Then they expand into a vacuum not occupy by any company.
                    Gassho
                    sat/ lah
                    Tai Shi


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                    • Kokuu
                      Dharma Transmitted Priest
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 6872

                      I would say that the primary reason Amazon has been so successful is that they provide an excellent service at good prices. To purchase books from others is to discourage excellence from businesses.
                      You say 'excellence', I say 'exploitation of workers'.

                      Up to individuals to decide what they want to support.

                      Gassho
                      Kokuu
                      -sattoday/didn'torderfromAmazon-

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                      • Jishin
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 4821

                        Originally posted by Kokuu
                        You say 'excellence', I say 'exploitation of workers'.

                        Up to individuals to decide what they want to support.

                        Gassho
                        Kokuu
                        -sattoday/didn'torderfromAmazon-
                        What an Evil Corporation! Giving jobs to millions so they can feed their families!

                        Gassho, Jishin, ST and helped lots of people that would otherwise be unemployed by owning Amazon Stock

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                        • Jundo
                          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 40719

                          Originally posted by Jishin
                          What an Evil Corporation! Giving jobs to millions so they can feed their families!

                          Gassho, Jishin, ST and helped lots of people that would otherwise be unemployed by owning Amazon Stock
                          Let us just all agree that corporations should be ethical and treat their workers fairly.

                          We can leave it to each person as to whether Amazon is doing so. I confess to buying from Amazon quite a bit, but maybe they ... like any group of sentient beings ... can sometimes do better as we all can.

                          Gassho, J

                          STLah
                          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                          • Jishin
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4821

                            Originally posted by Jundo
                            Let us just all agree that corporations should be ethical and treat their workers fairly.

                            We can leave it to each person as to whether Amazon is doing so. I confess to buying from Amazon quite a bit, but maybe they ... like any group of sentient beings ... can sometimes do better as we all can.

                            Gassho, J

                            STLah
                            I think that Amazon does untold good that people overlook.

                            I just spoke to a psychiatric patient of mine that has not worked in quite some time who reported that he was just hired by Amazon delivering packages for $16.50 an hour. That's a lot a money where I am from.

                            My brother-in-law has a law degree and a masters degree and lost his job a few years back and the only employment he was able to find for a while was with Amazon at a warehouse. They really helped out.

                            I live out in the country and most of my shopping is done through Amazon. If I did not have access to Amazon, I could not live as comfortably and may move to a bigger city. Countless rural patients would lose me as their doctor and be without health care. I can go on and on...

                            Everyone is entitled to an opinion...

                            Gassho, Jishin, ST

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40719

                              Well, we are not here to debate Amazon.

                              Everything has its good and bad aspects, and I am sure that they help many people in many ways, and I am know that there are issues about the company's effects and actions too. They helped many folks get through the pandemic. Let is just agree that companies, like all people, should do their best to be socially responsible and to treat others well.

                              However, because the Supreme Court of the United States has declared, in a famous ruling, that corporations are "persons," thus I hereby offer to bestow the Precepts, in Jukai, on any corporation. I wonder if that has ever been done? Maybe we should. Do you know any corporation which would like to undertake Jukai? Of course, the ceremony would have the legal entity (through its lawful representative) agree to avoid killing, not to take what is not given, to be truthful, not abuse its desires and all the rest.

                              Perhaps a corporation has Buddha Nature, can attain Nirvana and become Buddha too!

                              Gassho, J

                              STLah

                              Last edited by Jundo; 06-30-2021, 09:35 PM.
                              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                              • Jishin
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                                • Oct 2012
                                • 4821

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