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  • bayamo
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 411

    Ever worried because you're not worried?

    This is really d1ck3d up. I had a really bad week. I lost my favorite rosary. My smartyphone went psycho. I had a "strong" difference of opinion with my girlfriend. Now, 25, 30 years ago I'd be wigging out and be on full Hulk smash, Hulk destroy mode. But, I'm not. I'm just "these things happen" shrug my shoulders and move on. Maybe I only noticed because all this happened so close together, but I'm really concerned that I'm not concerned.
    #sattoday

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    Oh, yeah. If I didn't have inner peace, I'd go completely psycho on all you guys all the time.
    Carl Carlson
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40189

    #2
    So what's the problem?

    There's an old Woody Allen joke, I think, in which he feels nervous about being too relaxed.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Risho
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 3179

      #3
      Originally posted by bayamo
      This is really d1ck3d up.
      I'm stealing that; I love it! hahahahahhahhahah

      Gassho

      Risho
      -stlah
      Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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      • bayamo
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 411

        #4
        Originally posted by Risho
        I'm stealing that; I love it! hahahahahhahhahah

        Gassho

        Risho
        -stlah
        Well, I stole it from AJ on The Sopranos, so feel free

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        Oh, yeah. If I didn't have inner peace, I'd go completely psycho on all you guys all the time.
        Carl Carlson

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        • Sekiyuu
          Member
          • Apr 2018
          • 201

          #5
          It's usually too easy to get worried about stuff that doesn't actually matter, so I actually really appreciate moments where I "should" be worried but I'm not.

          I would take the win.

          Gassho,
          Kenny
          Sat Today

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          • Nengei
            Member
            • Dec 2016
            • 1697

            #6
            Similarly, I am so accustomed to having my schedule packed from one end to the other that when I don't, I feel nervous because I am not being productive. I suppose that is also having something to worry about vs not.

            Zazen has the side effect of helping me out with both an overloaded schedule and time off.

            Gassho,
            Nengei
            Sat today. LAH.
            遜道念芸 Sondō Nengei (he/him)

            Please excuse any indication that I am trying to teach anything. I am a priest in training and have no qualifications or credentials to teach Zen practice or the Dharma.

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40189

              #7
              Originally posted by bayamo
              This is really d1ck3d up.
              Hmmm. More gentle speech around here please, even if half disguised. Thank you.

              Gassho, J

              STLah
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 40189

                #8
                One of the great "rules of thumb" of how Zen Practice is impacting our life is when the "Dharma hits the fan" (** maybe I just did what I asked Bayamo not to do. ), when we are faced with some life disaster, the forest fire that one of our Treeleaf priests faced this week in which she just grabbed the animals and left the house for a time, the cancer diagnosis I had a couple of years ago, the small stuff life traffic jams and unfair situations at work, someone cuts in line in front of us, the political situation in the world seems so ugly, etc. etc. We just don't react the same as before.

                I have told the following story 100 times, so it is okay for the old folks to jump ahead:

                I will leave you with one more story that I like to tell. It is about two flat tires I had years apart, both on rainy days when I was late for an appointment, wearing a nice suit. In the first case, I had only been practicing Zen and Zazen a short time. POP! went the tire, down came the rain, I was soaked and late … and just miserable about it. I hated the tire, I hated the rain, I hated missing my appointment, I hated the busy street and my soaking wet suit. I changed the tire, but I hated myself. I think that I actually kicked the flat tire, stubbing my toe and making myself even more miserable.

                Some years later, almost the same scene: POP! went the tire, down came the rain, I was soaked and late … However, this time, the tire was the tire, and the rain fell like rain. I noticed that the drops were beautiful. I was soaked, but it was a cause to laugh. I was late, but time did not seem so important, and I even sensed a certain timelessness reminding me not to rush through life. The busy street was the one place to be in that moment. I changed the tire, I was content with myself. I remember quite clearly offering a bow of gratitude to the flat tire and the rain.

                In both cases, I was just as soaking wet, just as late. In both cases, I changed the tire and got on my way. In both cases, I missed my appointment, and was not able to reschedule.

                But in one case, it was terrible. And in one case, it was fine, even nice. Beautiful in fact.

                So, I hope you find your switch and learn to use it.
                Gassho, J

                STLah
                Last edited by Jundo; 09-07-2020, 01:18 AM.
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Onka
                  Member
                  • May 2019
                  • 1575

                  #9
                  I get worried when I stop laughing at myself, others and the world in general. If I stop laughing then I'm taking everything too seriously especially the serious stuff.
                  Gassho
                  Onka
                  ST
                  穏 On (Calm)
                  火 Ka (Fires)
                  They/She.

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                  • bayamo
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 411

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Hmmm. More gentle speech around here please, even if half disguised. Thank you.

                    Gassho, J

                    STLah
                    Sorry... I have a potty mouth and I really do try to keep it under control. Noted and I'll be mindful of this in the future.

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                    Oh, yeah. If I didn't have inner peace, I'd go completely psycho on all you guys all the time.
                    Carl Carlson

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                    • Risho
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 3179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bayamo
                      Sorry... I have a potty mouth and I really do try to keep it under control. Noted and I'll be mindful of this in the future.

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                      I apologize as well for being a bit too cavalier in my enthusiasm; my wife asked me to guve up my “colorful metaphors” for ango, which I will.

                      gassho

                      rish
                      Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                      • Jakuden
                        Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 6142

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Risho
                        I apologize as well for being a bit too cavalier in my enthusiasm; my wife asked me to guve up my “colorful metaphors” for ango, which I will.

                        gassho

                        rish
                        Is the term "colorful metaphor" from the Star Trek IV movie by any chance?

                        Gassho,
                        Jakuden
                        SatToday

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                        • Eva
                          Member
                          • May 2017
                          • 200

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bayamo
                          This is really d1ck3d up. I had a really bad week. I lost my favorite rosary. My smartyphone went psycho. I had a "strong" difference of opinion with my girlfriend. Now, 25, 30 years ago I'd be wigging out and be on full Hulk smash, Hulk destroy mode. But, I'm not. I'm just "these things happen" shrug my shoulders and move on. Maybe I only noticed because all this happened so close together, but I'm really concerned that I'm not concerned.
                          #sattoday

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                          Hello Bayamo,
                          It's quite natural that novel things wear out: after some time, things are not so novel anymore; after even more time, these are pretty worn out and after endless kalpas you will not even notice that some things used to exist (for you) .

                          On the different note - did you just create an extra worry about not worrying right now?

                          Gassho,
                          eva
                          sattoday and also LAH

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                          • Risho
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 3179

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jakuden
                            Is the term "colorful metaphor" from the Star Trek IV movie by any chance?

                            Gassho,
                            Jakuden
                            SatToday
                            guilty as charged; i was going to put a reference but i wanted to see if their were any fellow trek nerds out there hahaha
                            Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                            • Michael Joseph
                              Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 181

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Risho
                              guilty as charged; i was going to put a reference but i wanted to see if their were any fellow trek nerds out there hahaha
                              Thank you. [emoji120] I had forgotten that reference. [emoji16]

                              Gassho

                              Hobun

                              Sat

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