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  • Margherita
    Member
    • May 2017
    • 138

    #16
    Originally posted by Geika
    Well, it's her house, so I don't feel comfortable telling her how she should watch her TV, and I don't think that she would put up with headphones for one minute because it will flatten her perm, which is about the second most important thing to her.
    Surely there must be a type of headphones of earphones she can wear... or maybe you could invest in one for yourself.
    Zazen aside, I would go mad if I had to listen to TV all day, so I feel your pain.

    Gassho
    ST

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    • Bokugan
      Member
      • Dec 2019
      • 429

      #17
      Every time I attend Treeleaf zazenkai I have a lot of background noise (video games in my case -- my spouse is a Twitch streamer). I do not have it going all day like you, Geika, but I can imagine how difficult that would be to deal with. In lieu of noise canceling headphones, I think white noise is a great idea and might try that myself if things ever become too distracting or I need a break.

      Gassho,

      Ryan
      Sat Today
      墨眼 | Bokugan | Sumi Ink Eye
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      • Kyōsen
        Member
        • Aug 2019
        • 311

        #18
        There are many sounds which bother me and I know it's not possible to avoid them all so rather than change the world, I have been trying to monitor my reaction and to see where in that process I can make a change. One example was the sound of our old windshield wipers before they were replaces, screeching across the windshield whenever there wasn't enough rain to make a slippery surface but also when there was enough rain to obscure our vision of the road. What I tried was to listen to the sound and say to myself "it's not a bad noise, it's just a sound; avoid judging it as good or bad and just hear it for what it is; hear how empty it is of any kind of value or meaning." It didn't always work, but sometimes it did, and it was almost blissful being able to hear that sound and being unbothered by it; and the more I did it, the better I got at it.

        Gassho
        Kyōsen
        Sat|LAH
        橋川
        kyō (bridge) | sen (river)

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 40992

          #19
          Originally posted by Kyōsen
          There are many sounds which bother me and I know it's not possible to avoid them all so rather than change the world, I have been trying to monitor my reaction and to see where in that process I can make a change. One example was the sound of our old windshield wipers before they were replaces, screeching across the windshield whenever there wasn't enough rain to make a slippery surface but also when there was enough rain to obscure our vision of the road. What I tried was to listen to the sound and say to myself "it's not a bad noise, it's just a sound; avoid judging it as good or bad and just hear it for what it is; hear how empty it is of any kind of value or meaning." It didn't always work, but sometimes it did, and it was almost blissful being able to hear that sound and being unbothered by it; and the more I did it, the better I got at it.

          Gassho
          Kyōsen
          Sat|LAH
          Nice little out in the world practice.

          Gassho, J

          STLah
          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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          • Tai Shi
            Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 3468

            #20
            I was tested for hearing at the University of South Dakota near our home. The specialists assured me that I had deafness in my right ear, so this week I complained to my wife. She gave me an ear wax removing tool$!Then kind doctors object to. I inserted the tool deep to the guard on the device. Used as directed. Out fell
            A 1/2 inch pice of wax.!None of the warm water treatments at doctors offices had don any good, I guess I b was lucky no damage to my ear at BB all. My hearing in had returned 200%
            And so beautiful to listen to music which I thoroughly enjoy. Next to n beautifully written poetry, I feel with my ears, poetry making use of sound and sense I find my true calling. Now I can hear myself when I read poetry to myself. What beauty.
            Tai Shi
            sat / lah
            Gassho


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            • Amelia
              Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4980

              #21
              Originally posted by kirkmc
              Many years ago, I lived in an apartment that had a fair amount of noise from outside. I used earplugs, and found it fine, but today you might want to use noise-cancelling headphones. I think either of those solutions is better than white noise, because the white noise won't fully block out the extraneous sounds, and you'll be on heightened alert listening for them.
              I am not looking for complete silence, because that is a pretty unnatural lack of sound, and is never really part of a daily zazen practice. The white noise, while not completely blocking other sounds out, does not heighten my awareness of them, and for me it kind of creates a very easy to ignore blend of natural sound that allows me to drop it.

              Originally posted by Margherita
              Surely there must be a type of headphones of earphones she can wear... or maybe you could invest in one for yourself.
              It is hard to explain why it would be very uncomfortable to ask her to do that... I guess every family has its own discreet politics. My own headphones are what I use for the white noise, and I like tgus arrangement because they do not block everything out, nor overwhelm my ears with the recording, and does not require me to ask her to change her habits.

              Gassho
              Sat today, lah
              求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
              I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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              • Risho
                Member
                • May 2010
                • 3178

                #22
                would you be able to sit before she gets up or after she goes to sleep when shes not watching the delightful sounds of tucker carlson’s sweet, sweet voice? (I kid of course )
                Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                • Amelia
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4980

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Risho
                  would you be able to sit before she gets up or after she goes to sleep when shes not watching the delightful sounds of tucker carlson’s sweet, sweet voice? (I kid of course )
                  Lol, I am gone for work long before she wakes, or on my days off I am sleeping later than her and she stays up much later than me. For now, I think I have found a good balance between when I use the white noise or not. It has really improved.

                  Gassho
                  Sat today, lah
                  求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                  I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                  • Inshin
                    Member
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 557

                    #24
                    Any church nearby that's open for public between the masses?
                    Gassho
                    Sat

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                    • Amelia
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4980

                      #25
                      Possibly, but I don't wish to go into any places that hold large groups at any time of day. As of now, I have found a good balance.

                      Gassho
                      Sat today, lah
                      求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                      I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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