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  • Jishin
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 4821

    #16
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    • Kyoshin
      Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 308

      #17
      Originally posted by Jundo
      I very much agree with this, even if it is just psychological and not "magic" (maybe they are not different?)
      Ten years of studying western mystery traditions and occultism led me to the conclusion that magic and psychology are indeed not different. Incidentally, that realization helped get me into Zen.
      Gassho
      Nick
      Satlah

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      • Tai Do
        Member
        • Jan 2019
        • 1433

        #18
        Originally posted by Kokuu
        Well, we might both be!

        Gassho
        Kokuu
        -sattoday/lah-
        So it is...

        Mateus
        Sat today
        怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
        (also known as Mateus )

        禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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        • Kyonin
          Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
          • Oct 2010
          • 6745

          #19
          Hi Shinshou,

          Some Sutras like Prajnaparamita, Lotus Sutra or the Sanghata Sutra have self referencing words about their own power. In the Heart Sutra the Sutra itself tells us that it is the Supreme Mantra.

          I am not an expert in Sutras or anything, but my guess is that these kind of phrases were coined to make people understand how important reciting a Sutra could be for the prectitioner's life.

          Gassho,

          Kyonin
          Sat/LAH
          Hondō Kyōnin
          奔道 協忍

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          • Geika
            Treeleaf Unsui
            • Jan 2010
            • 4981

            #20
            I used to practice with mantras. I had memorized dozens of them. This was around 10 years ago. Now I know that I can chant any word or phrase and get the same result, which is a less distracted monkey mind... and in the end I just sit and drop all the chatter.

            Sat today, lah
            求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
            I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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            • Kyoshin
              Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 308

              #21
              I find mantras useful sometimes. For me, when the ole brain is intolerably noisy, mantras can act like a white noise machine. I'll also repeat a few lines from time to time before sitting, just as an extra signal to myself "hey we're doing this now!"
              Gassho
              Nick
              Satlah

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              • threethirty
                Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 170

                #22
                I know mantras are outside of our zen practice and are woo woo and magical. But i have used the protection of green tara mantra to keep my from bursting into big boy tears (you know like when run out of ice cream) in a hospital waiting room.

                Sometimes a little magic can go a long way

                Om tare tu tare turre svaha!

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                --Washu
                和 Harmony
                秀 Excellence

                "Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body" George Carlin Roshi

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 39989

                  #23
                  Originally posted by threethirty
                  I know mantras are outside of our zen practice and are woo woo and magical. But i have used the protection of green tara mantra to keep my from bursting into big boy tears (you know like when run out of ice cream) in a hospital waiting room.

                  Sometimes a little magic can go a long way

                  Om tare tu tare turre svaha!
                  That sounds like a fun one to bring a smile, and might also magically make an ice cream appear!

                  This works good too ...



                  Gassho, J

                  STLah
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • Ryudo
                    Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 424

                    #24


                    Thank you all.

                    SatToday
                    流道
                    Ryū Dou

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