A question on open, spacious awareness

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  • Hoseki
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 685

    #16
    Lovely!

    Gassho
    Satoday/LAH

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    • Onkai
      Senior Priest-in-Training
      • Aug 2015
      • 3081

      #17
      Thank you, Van, Jundo, and others who answered. I was never sure if I had the "spacious awareness" right. This thread is helpful to me.

      Gassho,
      Onkai
      Sat
      美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
      恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

      I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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      • moyomoy
        Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 27

        #18
        Hi Jundo,

        Many thanks for sharing this. I’m very new in this topic and very keen to explore “Open awareness” during sitting.

        Gassho

        Moy


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        • Shinshou
          Member
          • May 2017
          • 251

          #19
          My experience is like that described by Kokuu. Sometimes, there is awareness of everything all at once, but that is rare. When it happens, I don't celebrate it or mourn it. Usually, there is a switching between senses...I may hear the clock ticking, or see the wall in front of me, or feel the pressure on my ankles, or a transient emotion. When those experiences happen, I don't celebrate or mourn them. My experience has been that equanimity and open awareness come not from focusing, restricting, or controlling the mind's activity, but instead just allowing it without judgment. Just my view.

          Shinshou (Dan)
          Sat Today

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          • Jundo
            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
            • Apr 2006
            • 40719

            #20
            Originally posted by Shinshou

            My experience has been that equanimity and open awareness come not from focusing, restricting, or controlling the mind's activity, but instead just allowing it without judgment. Just my view.
            Yes, I believe that is a good description. I would add just that we allow the mind's activity without grabbing on or wallowing in it too. For example, if a negative or angry thought comes (or even a positive and happy one) during Shikantaza Zazen time, we don't grab on, get taken for a wide, wallow in the emotion, get tied up in the resulting trains of thoughts. Let it come, let it be, let it go.

            If finding oneself nonetheless having gotten taken for a ride or wallowing ... release, return to breath or posture or open awareness ... again and again.

            That, and sitting with the wholeness and completeness, sacredness, of "not one other place to be, not one more thing to do in this time of sitting but sitting" attitude of Shikantaza, with sitting itself being sat with a sense in the bones of the pinnacle of all life's goals and desires being just to sit for sitting's sake, and one has a pretty good handle on Shikantaza. I speak of this last vital aspect here:

            WHAT's OFTEN MISSING in SHIKANTAZA EXPLANATIONS ....
            Dear All. I am writing a longer chapter for a book that points up some aspects of sitting Shikantaza that seem to be often missing, misunderstood or understated in many explanations I've read and heard regarding "how to" Shikanataza. In my belief, neglecting these points robs Shikantaza of its power, like fire


            Gassho, J

            STLah
            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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            • Jakuden
              Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 6141

              #21
              What an awesome thread, thanks to all.

              Gassho
              Jakuden
              SatToday/LAH

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              • Suuko
                Member
                • May 2017
                • 405

                #22
                Indeed. Great thread. Good to be back.

                Gassho, Guish.
                Has been known as Guish since 2017 on the forum here.

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