Re: Gear for the frugal buddhist
Well since there is over 800 years of history, it depends on how you define "traditional". Currently, mostly a shirt-weight cotton or cotton-polyester seems to be most used, significantly of new fabric.
However, in chapter 78 of Dogen's Shobogenzo (Nishiyama's translation of 1983) - "Transmission of the Kesa"
"The material we use to make a kesa must be pure. "Pure" means material donated by pure-minded believers, purchased in a market place, received as a gift from celestials, dragon gods, or even demons. It may be received from kings and ministers, and might even be leather.
The ten kinds of dirty rags that also may be used are:
1. cloth chewed by cows.
2. cloth chewed by rats.
3. cloth that has been burned.
4. cloth that has been used for menstruation.
5. cloth that has been used during childbirth.
6. cloth eaten by birds.
7. cloth used to cover dead bodies.
8. cloth used for religious services.
9. cloth used by kings and ministers.
10. cloth used to transport bodies.
Prior to this in this chapter, there is the mention of "cloth used for wiping excrement" from which, perhaps we get the tradition of brown rakusus and the larger priest's kesa.
I am sure I read in the Shobogenzo that it should be made from rags that can be used for nothing else, which is probably the origin of the rakusu being pieced from such very small pieces. Jundo?
Also in this chapter Dogen refutes the idea that silk is unethical for buddhist monks.
But guessing from Jundo's attitude about gear, I would be surprised if he was stringent about materials?
hope this is useful?
rowan
Well since there is over 800 years of history, it depends on how you define "traditional". Currently, mostly a shirt-weight cotton or cotton-polyester seems to be most used, significantly of new fabric.
However, in chapter 78 of Dogen's Shobogenzo (Nishiyama's translation of 1983) - "Transmission of the Kesa"
"The material we use to make a kesa must be pure. "Pure" means material donated by pure-minded believers, purchased in a market place, received as a gift from celestials, dragon gods, or even demons. It may be received from kings and ministers, and might even be leather.
The ten kinds of dirty rags that also may be used are:
1. cloth chewed by cows.
2. cloth chewed by rats.
3. cloth that has been burned.
4. cloth that has been used for menstruation.
5. cloth that has been used during childbirth.
6. cloth eaten by birds.
7. cloth used to cover dead bodies.
8. cloth used for religious services.
9. cloth used by kings and ministers.
10. cloth used to transport bodies.
Prior to this in this chapter, there is the mention of "cloth used for wiping excrement" from which, perhaps we get the tradition of brown rakusus and the larger priest's kesa.
I am sure I read in the Shobogenzo that it should be made from rags that can be used for nothing else, which is probably the origin of the rakusu being pieced from such very small pieces. Jundo?
Also in this chapter Dogen refutes the idea that silk is unethical for buddhist monks.
But guessing from Jundo's attitude about gear, I would be surprised if he was stringent about materials?
hope this is useful?
rowan
Originally posted by Gregor
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