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  • cosmiceye
    Member
    • May 2018
    • 23

    Buddhism for children/teens

    Hello everyone, I hope you are all well & enjoying your summer!

    I am hoping that someone can offer me some suggestions.

    I am looking for book recommendations for my 14 yo daughter that is interested in learning more about Buddhism. She has meditated with me on & off (lots of off) over the years, but I have recently been meditating with my girls more regularly & it has sparked her interest in learning more about Buddhist teachings. I recently purchased a family meditation curriculum to use primarily with my other daughter (9yo) as she loves to meditate with me (she even asked for her own cushion & bell 2 years ago for her bday), but it really seems too young even for her. The curriculum is titled "Sitting Together: A Family-Centered Curriculum on Mindfulness, Meditation & Buddhist Teachings" we have been working through it for a few weeks. Honestly, I probably would not have bought it if I would have had a chance to look through it before hand, as it seems to be for really young children & we haven't come to any material that is new to them & most of the books that it uses are ones we have already read over the years. I was hoping that it would be a nice way to teach them since it was all laid out in order for me. I do plan to continue working through it with them as they seem to enjoy the time spent together. I have always read them any children's books that I could find on Buddhism, mediation or mindfulness; the 9 & 10yos particularly love being read the Jataka Tales at bedtime. My girls have always been attracted to the Buddha & Kwan Yin (all 3 have their own statues of them in their bedrooms, taken from my altars over the years as they were drawn to them), & they have been chanting the Heart Mantra & Kwan Yin's Mantra since they could speak. The 9yo has her own chanting cd that she listens to on her own regularly (she particularly loves the deep throat chanting. lol!). But, I have never really formally taught them anything more. I have just been living my life as I do & sharing things with them as they seem interested.

    So, the 14 yo came to me last night & said that she wanted to learn more. She started looking through the books on my night stand that I am currently reading. None of them would have really suited her, though she did like the book "What Is Zen?: Plain Talk for a Beginner's Mind" & said that she would like to study through it with me when we work through it here in the book club. I took her out to my book shelf in the living room & we looked to see if there was anything that would be good for her to read. I have a lot (too many really) of books from various traditions. I don't really want to confuse her & would really like her to start with something from a Soto Zen or at least a Zen perspective. (Though I would never mind if she was drawn to a different tradition; I just know that I have a hard time grasping things & think I would have been better off learning from one certain perspective in the beginning instead of jumping around). I found a few books that I though might be okay, but I would like your opinions on them. They are:

    Steve Hagen:
    Buddhism Plain and Simple: The Practice of Being Aware, Right Now, Every Day
    Buddhism Is Not What You Think: Finding Freedom Beyond Beliefs

    Steven Batchelor:
    Buddhism Without Beliefs: A Contemporary Guide to Awakening

    I am not sure if any of those would be good. I haven't read those in years though I do plan on looking through them this evening but honestly even then I don't know if I will know if they would be good for her! lol! I would also love your opinions on a good book or 2 to buy for her that is particularly geared to her age group.

    I am sorry this post is so long, I always tend to be way too wordy!! (Is that even a word??) lol!!

    Thanks in advance, I really appreciate all that I am reading and learning through each of your posts & insights.

    Gassho,
    Kristin

    Sat2day
  • Jishin
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 4821

    #2
    Hi Kristin,

    Seems to me you are doing a great job! :-)

    Gassho, Jishin, ST

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    • Kyonin
      Dharma Transmitted Priest
      • Oct 2010
      • 6748

      #3
      Hi Kristin,

      I am not a father but I have a little of experience with my nephew and some other friends' kids. Teenagers sometimes are attracted to Buddhism because it's really appealing to them the way it goes "against the stream", which hits home with how young people feel the world around them.

      What I have done with my 15 years old nephew is to have books around and when I go visit him we may watch a movie or a talk. However, teenagers are not very patient so I don't push Buddhism on him.

      Just go at it slowly, answer questions but keep in mind that his interests may shift constantly.

      At the end of the day what you want is that he knows that he can always go to Buddhism for inspiration and maybe in the future he'll consider going a little more formal with it.

      Gassho,

      Kyonin
      Sat/LAH
      Hondō Kyōnin
      奔道 協忍

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      • Ryushi
        Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 185

        #4
        My kids haven't shown a lot of interest in Zen, and I'm not trying to push it on them. But I'm interested in whatever resources come out of this thread so I have something at hand if they do want to know more. I'm not sure what I have in my existing library that would hold their interest. My son (13 yo) may possibly get into Brad Warner's "Don't Be A Jerk" or "Hardcore Zen".

        These came up when I searched for something for teens. Anyone have experience with them?

        Wide Awake: A Buddhist Guide for Teens, by Diana Winston
        Buddha In Your Backpack: Everyday Buddhism for Teens, by Franz Metcalf

        Sat today. Gassho.


        No merit. Vast emptiness; nothing holy. I don't know.

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        • Tairin
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2910

          #5
          You listed a couple of Steve Hagen books. I like this one “Meditation: Now or Never”. https://www.amazon.com/Meditation-No.../dp/0061143294 It is written in plain but engaging English. It isn’t overtly Buddhist or Zen but it is very clear that it is his perspective. If anyone was to ask me more about my practice that’s the book I’d loan them as a starter.

          Good luck on your quest. I’ll keep an eye on this thread in case my son ever shows any interest.


          Tairin
          Sat today
          泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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          • Mp

            #6
            Hello Kristin,

            It sounds like you have a good handle on this. It is nice to see them coming to you for guidance.

            All I can say is take it slow and make it fun for them. Learning comes in many ways as you know ... this too can be applied to understanding and practicing the path. =)

            Gassho
            Shingen

            Sat/LAH

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            • cosmiceye
              Member
              • May 2018
              • 23

              #7
              Originally posted by Jishin
              Hi Kristin,

              Seems to me you are doing a great job! :-)

              Gassho, Jishin, ST
              Thank you Jishin! Though I must admit that in all actuality I feel like I am a pretty burned out mom. I have 4 older children aged 22-31 & am now raising 4 girls aged 9-14 (one is my “step” daughter) and most days I feel like my older children got the best of me. Lol!! I was a stay at home mom when they were younger, but I now work full-time & at almost 49 am pretty tired most days and find it a challenge to be a “good” mom.

              But thank-you for the encouragement!
              Gassho,
              Kristin
              Sat2day LAH

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              • cosmiceye
                Member
                • May 2018
                • 23

                #8
                Originally posted by Kyonin
                Hi Kristin,

                I am not a father but I have a little of experience with my nephew and some other friends' kids. Teenagers sometimes are attracted to Buddhism because it's really appealing to them the way it goes "against the stream", which hits home with how young people feel the world around them.

                What I have done with my 15 years old nephew is to have books around and when I go visit him we may watch a movie or a talk. However, teenagers are not very patient so I don't push Buddhism on him.

                Just go at it slowly, answer questions but keep in mind that his interests may shift constantly.

                At the end of the day what you want is that he knows that he can always go to Buddhism for inspiration and maybe in the future he'll consider going a little more formal with it.

                Gassho,

                Kyonin
                Sat/LAH
                Excellent advice Kyonin! Thank-you!

                I fear sometimes that I am not able to answer their questions correctly. As they get older, the questions get harder. They were asking about rebirth last night & I was struggling to answer them coherently. My 14 had what may be past life memories when she was little. She would make this gesture when she was a few years old & when I asked her about them, she would say,, “That is what my mom did before when I was a boy”. (They were raised with no television at that age & I had never spoken to them about reincarnation) She also used to sing what seemed to be Native American songs/chants when she was very young...still in a crib.. but I don’t remember the exact age....when I asked her about them, she said that her grandma used to sing them to her “before”. I never questioned her further about either of these...I am not sure why I didn’t, but at the time it just seemed a perfectly natural response & I didn’t feel the need to push her for more information. She has been told these stories over the years & now wishes that I would have asked her more questions.

                Anyway, I answer their questions to the best of my ability......which usually seems very insufficient to us all. It is hard when my beliefs change over the years (and that many times I am not even sure what I believe!) & that they tend to ask all the “unanswerable” questions!! Lol!!

                Gassho,
                Kristin

                SaTtoDaY LAH

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                • cosmiceye
                  Member
                  • May 2018
                  • 23

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Todd
                  ......Brad Warner's "Don't Be A Jerk" or "Hardcore Zen".

                  These came up when I searched for something for teens. Anyone have experience with them?

                  Wide Awake: A Buddhist Guide for Teens, by Diana Winston
                  Buddha In Your Backpack: Everyday Buddhism for Teens, by Franz Metcalf

                  Sat today. Gassho.
                  Thank you for the suggestions Todd! I have never seen any of Brad Warner’s books but I will look into them. I saw the 2 books you referred to for teens on Amazon as well, but wasn’t sure if they would were good. Does anyone know anything about them or the authors?

                  Thank you!
                  Gassho,
                  Kristin
                  Sat2day

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                  • cosmiceye
                    Member
                    • May 2018
                    • 23

                    #10
                    Awesome Tairin, Thank you! I will check that book out on Amazon!

                    Gassho,
                    Kristin!!
                    Sat2day Lah

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                    • cosmiceye
                      Member
                      • May 2018
                      • 23

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shingen

                      All I can say is take it slow and make it fun for them. Learning comes in many ways as you know ... this too can be applied to understanding and practicing the path. =)

                      Gassho
                      Shingen

                      Sat/LAH
                      Shingen, Than you for the reminder & great advice!!!

                      Gassho,
                      Kristin

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 40932

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Todd
                        My kids haven't shown a lot of interest in Zen, and I'm not trying to push it on them. But I'm interested in whatever resources come out of this thread so I have something at hand if they do want to know more. I'm not sure what I have in my existing library that would hold their interest. My son (13 yo) may possibly get into Brad Warner's "Don't Be A Jerk" or "Hardcore Zen".

                        These came up when I searched for something for teens. Anyone have experience with them?

                        Wide Awake: A Buddhist Guide for Teens, by Diana Winston
                        Buddha In Your Backpack: Everyday Buddhism for Teens, by Franz Metcalf

                        Sat today. Gassho.
                        Boy, I wish I could be more helpful here. The two goodreads links from Todd look very promising as a basic introduction aimed at teenagers, although not specifically to Zen practice. I will try to download and look. They seem to be more general mindfulness from skimming through what is available online. "What Is Zen" may be good for a serious minded teenager, but really it is aimed at adults. (Yes, we start that in our wordless bookclub in a couple of weeks).

                        Brad's "Hardcore Zen" might be good, as he is a 55 year old perpetual teenager (but not "Don't Be A Jerk" so much as an introduction, and I feel that it is really only for people who already know and love Dogen). Steve Hagen might be a bit dry for a teenager, and I would not recommend Batchelor as an introduction at all for anybody.

                        We have a couple of books on our reading list, but not particularly geared to teenagers.

                        • Buddhism For Dummies by Jonathan Landaw & Stephan Bodian (Jundo: I have been looking for a very long time for a book for people very new to Buddhism who want to know basic information and all the many flavors of Buddhist schools, their beliefs and practices. Despite the silly title, this is a very smart, well written, comprehensive and detailed yet easy (and fun) to read, humorous and serious guide, covers most of the major bases and in quite some detail, gives fair treatment to the many flavors of Buddhism, is very down to earth about the more magical aspects of Buddhism (it tries to present a more psychological than literal take on Karma and Rebirth, for example) .... and it covers everything and the kitchen sink. I learned a thing or two. I just wish they would change the title. If I have one criticism, I wish they had done a better job in contrasting the various approaches of Zen. I recommend this book primarily for people very new to Buddhism in general.)
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                        • Simple Guide to Zen Buddhism by Diana St. Ruth (Jundo: For folks who are completely new, puzzled and perplexed about Zen Buddhism's history and practices of various flavors. It is detailed in its explanation, balanced and quite comprehensive in the many topics it covers. I would not recommend the book for anyone who had been practicing for even a few months, but it may still answer some questions and be good to give to your dad or sister who is completely confused by what we are doing here ... and may think that we are wearing bed sheets while dancing in drum circles with the Dalai Lama during the Soltice. As with any book, it is not perfect. It could still do even a better job in explaining the various different approaches of Soto and Rinzai, Koan Centered Zazen and Shikantaza ... but they are touched upon. But compared to most other books on the subject, it is well researched, comprehensive, very balanced and gets it right.)
                        By the way, we have this page of recommended Buddhist family holiday activities that, unfortunately, have never caught fire here at Treeleaf. I am still hoping they might someday.

                        Celebrate BUDDHIST HOLIDAYS with Your Family!
                        Hi, At the following "BUDDHIST FAMILY HOLIDAYS" WEBPAGE sponsored by our Sangha, we present ideas for family celebrations of some traditional Buddhist Holidays. These are ideas to involve the entire family, and especially kids as a way to introduce them to the meaning of the holidays and basic Buddhist teachings in a


                        Gee, anybody around here want to help me write a book on Soto Zen and Buddhism for Teenagers? It sounds like a good project.

                        Gassho, Jundo

                        SatTodayLAH
                        Last edited by Jundo; 06-22-2018, 11:29 AM.
                        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                        • Amelia
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4980

                          #13
                          When I first began an interest in practice, my biggest inspirations from the Zen tradition, and not just Soto, always came from being shown and not told. I like to watch people practicing in action, either on YouTube or in a documentary. I find I can really get it into my bones in this way. I think "How to Cook Your Life" might be enjoyable for your kids. That one really got me to feel what we're going for in this life, even if just from the perspective of cooking. Also, YouTube just has endless videos and talks on the subject that might not be to heavy for them. To really see that practice is not some lofty ideal in a book, but just a simple way of life, really got me going in the beginning.

                          Gassho, sat today, lah
                          求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                          I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                          • Ryushi
                            Member
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 185

                            #14
                            I like to watch people practicing in action, either on YouTube or in a documentary. I find I can really get it into my bones in this way.
                            excellent point! My introduction to zazen was watching how-to videos on YouTube.

                            My kids see me sitting and know what I'm doing. Sometimes they ask me about it and I always offer to show them how. No one has taken me up on it yet, but someday!


                            No merit. Vast emptiness; nothing holy. I don't know.

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40932

                              #15
                              As the father of a 15 year old, I am pretty sure that the dry books and such won't cut it with this generation. (I doubt it would have done much for me at that age).

                              Gee, we need some Buddhist video games! Films and animations.

                              In fact, I know one animation that is lovely and pretty funny too, and linked on our "Suggested Book & Media List" ...

                              Hi, The following is a recommended book list for our Sangha. It covers a variety of works on Zen, life, “Just Sitting” Shikantaza Zazen, Master Dogen and Buddhism in general. Thank you to all who provided input, and the list is still open to new suggestions and additions. Please email or PM me (Jundo) with any


                              There are dozens of these short "Zen Speaks" cartoons with a Chan flavor. Here is the first video a compilation in a set of 11 videos. You need to turn on the English subtitles (small tab at the bottom of the screen)

                              De um modo geral, os ensinamentos do Zen criticam o estudo de textos e o desejo por realizações mundanas, recomendando, antes, a dedicação à meditação (zazen...


                              Recommended for everyone, young and old.

                              Gassho, J

                              SatToday
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